medical marijuana?
i'm from michigan and we recently putt the law into affect. even though im only 15 im still pretty excited that our nation is becoming more acceptable to it. i think its cuz the government has more important wars to worry about then the drug war :P anyone have any arguements on this?
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Posted: 2010-03-08 16:25:16
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Here's what it comes down to. It costs alot of money to keep weed criminalized. If weed is legal, the government doesn't just save money on law enforcement and prisons, they have a new source of taxable revenue. Nothing to lose and plenty to gain with legalization.
so then why hasnt our government done this yet?
after we elected bush 2 times...i think the country has this problem. not just the government
Because the cigs and alcohol companies wontw ant it, and their taxes make the govt bank.
It is also due to the general public having a lack of understanding about the affects of weed on people. They don't understand that weed is not actually a real health risk but they do see the war on drugs. Because of this people will vote in these guys who are tough on drugs but these people they vote in are lumping weed into the same group as other drugs such as crack and meth. This makes it harder for people to learn more about weed and it's real affects on the body.
What they could do is legalize it for all-the-time use, but you cannot be in possession of VERY large amounts of it. Like a trunk-full. That's too much. A recreational amount should be fine.
Way to believe mainstream media and everything taught in schools...there is a difference between an addict and a recreational user. I personally don't use it but I have no problem with others using, furthermore if it were to be treated just the same as alcohol and or cigarettes with the same penalties for inappropriate use I would have no problem with legalization.(this includes taxes)
I guess a tax on those stupid enough to use it would be fair. Also, "and everything taught in schools", have you ever thought that just maybe there's a reason they tell you these things in school? I mean, wouldn't it be crazy if they actually just tell you to help educate you on the risks of abusing substances? Nah, you're probably right, it's all propaganda. Also, go ahead and have unprotected sex, don't buy into the lies you hear in sex ed class. It's totally safe.
You make a valid point. However compare it to another drug alcohol, they both have affects on your brain, both are dangerous to have in your system while you drive,however not many get violent from smoking weed though, No one has died from smoking too much and all too often you hear of people dieing of alcohol poisoning. If you have heard of binge drinking you know how bad that is for someone. I'm not saying it's safe to smoke weed but compared to other things people can become addicted to (drinking, cigarettes, sex) it seems like the lesser of the evils. I never said that the education about the affects of these drugs was propaganda. And please don't think I was trying to turn you over I'm just trying to expose you to more possibilities than that of which taught by "the man". (BTW your sarcastic remark made me lol :D)
Glad my sarcasm is appreciated :)
But my point remains that it's still just pointless. There's no need to make it illegal as it doesn't help anyone, or improve society. I don't think drinking and smoking are good either but there are enough people that would throw a fit over banning them, it's impossible.
But my point remains that it's still just pointless. There's no need to make it illegal as it doesn't help anyone, or improve society. I don't think drinking and smoking are good either but there are enough people that would throw a fit over banning them, it's impossible.
you havent done much research on the topic first off and you are following the right wing propaganda, while you are right about one thing it can lead to other things only by the fact that you meet people who do those things but you have to want to try it. gateway drug is a very poor term, the only thing it may do is open up opertunities that you might not have had.
"right wing propaganda"
This honestly made me laugh out loud. It's called the gateway drug because when you abuse any substance, you gradually crave more of it. Eventually it becomes impractical to smoke/drink/chew whatever that is, so you move on to something more powerful. Eventually weed will stop giving you the high it did at first, so you'll want to try something else more powerful. Ask any drug addict what happened to them, and their story will match this. If they aren't too burned out to comprehend what you're saying. It's not propaganda, it's science and common sense. Even if a substance isn't chemically very addictive, if it's pleasurable you can become addicted to it.
This honestly made me laugh out loud. It's called the gateway drug because when you abuse any substance, you gradually crave more of it. Eventually it becomes impractical to smoke/drink/chew whatever that is, so you move on to something more powerful. Eventually weed will stop giving you the high it did at first, so you'll want to try something else more powerful. Ask any drug addict what happened to them, and their story will match this. If they aren't too burned out to comprehend what you're saying. It's not propaganda, it's science and common sense. Even if a substance isn't chemically very addictive, if it's pleasurable you can become addicted to it.
well see thats the thing you are speaking from your ass again. cannabis is an herb, most modern medicines come from herbs and that includes cannabis. there are numerous drugs made from it (legal ones). it is high in medicinal values. have you ever taken a prescription drug? if so then you are making a lot of contradictory statements. cannabis also has no components that are addicting. you may like how it feels(being why you continue to smoke) but going to a new harder drug is all personal choice. Hypothetical scenario(i dont wish harm upon you in the slightest) but if you were to get in a bad car accident would you like to go through recovery without medication, pharmaceutical have far worse side affects, risk of dependency, and chances that you may continue with this drug or others. and actually my uncle was a drug addict who has passed from aids and i know his story(didnt match at all) please study before making snide remarks over something you know far to little about
First of all, keep it civil. "speaking from your ass" is no way to convince someone your side of the argument. I'll bow out on this one, and give you the benefit of the doubt as some of your points are very well thought out and I am wrong sometimes. However, people don't take marijuana recreationally for medical purposes, and f that's what you're suggesting it's ridiculous. I'm not talking about using it medicinally (still not a good idea in my opinion but I digress).
1."medical marijuana"-title that is what we are speaking about
2."If you're retarded enough to want to smoke weed, you shouldn't have a say in the debate. 'Nuff said."- you say its stupid for people to want to feel better
3. i appologize for saying ass
2."If you're retarded enough to want to smoke weed, you shouldn't have a say in the debate. 'Nuff said."- you say its stupid for people to want to feel better
3. i appologize for saying ass
1. Where in the question asked by the poster does it mention medical marijuana? The only place is in the cartoon depicting a humorous abuse of medical marijuana. The post is about legalizing it in general.
2. There are plenty of legal painkillers, and again, it was pretty obvious I meant recreationally anyway.
3. Thank you.
2. There are plenty of legal painkillers, and again, it was pretty obvious I meant recreationally anyway.
3. Thank you.
regarding 1. the post is titled medical marijuana, i believe thats what the debate should be over, yes i understand the irony of the comic
regarding 2. if you are speaking over the counter they dont have the same affects and if you are speaking prescription they are much more dangerous
regarding 2. if you are speaking over the counter they dont have the same affects and if you are speaking prescription they are much more dangerous
Posted: 2011-01-13 16:08:34 Report
look up Portugal, they legalized all drugs and they seem to be to fine, if not better than before.
www.alternet.org/drugs/151635/ten_years_ago_portugal_legaliz
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www.alternet.org/drugs/151635/ten_years_ago_portugal_legaliz
ed_all_drugs_--_what_happened_next
meh, it's easy enough to buy without it being legal anyway. who cares
They should legalise it. It doesn't harm the mind in any way at all. Annually there are ZERO deaths caused by weed. Which is waaaaayyy less than alcohol, caffeine, nicotine etc. In my point of view the government has no reason for it to be illegal at all. And the point Crazyjay brought up about legalizing and taxing weed is what I think should happen worldwide.
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