Why do you believe in God

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  • Math
  • January 1, 2010, 4:44 am
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    sounds like grounds for another epic Ertrov versus Logos argument

    ready, set, FIGHT!!

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    i dont believe in the magical man who lives in the clouds

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    I hate people who obviously dont read the post who just see "athiest hatin on god" and blindly follow shit that was drilled into their heads or that they were just too stupid to figure out.

    I hate how there is such outcry when an there is an agressive athiest trying to stop people being retarded and wasting their time wish bs. But there are tonnes of people who go door to door trying to sell you religios..

    I hate people who stare factual truth in the face and ignore it. Saying that they are "just right", when they are not.

    I feel sorry for people who truly, truly believe in this and waste their time going to church and talking to nobody. When the main reasons are:
    1. Parents brought them up to believe it.
    2. They actually think it makes sense, possibly because their stupid or they havnt looked into it much.
    3. They cant accept that "this is it" and cling onto stupid beliefs about the afterlife and wasting their time going to church.
    4. There is so much reference to it in society that they just think its the norm at will tell people that they believe in it when deep down they havnt given it any thought

    What people should be glad for is that their DNA, out of ALL the possibities, was lucky enough to fertalise and egg and allow you to be consious. While that sounds like a lot less than what religious offers, its a whole lot better than being ignorant.

    I really dont like religion and all the wars it starts, all the prejudice it creates, all the development it hinders and much much more.

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    This question shouldn't be answered for one simple reason not all people agree in what God is, God is an abstract idea and even people within the same religion have different views on what god is like what he does and what he is doing. So instead a better question is what is God to you? In answering that question it can be seen why a person believes because in what we believe god to be is why we believe.

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    The Mithra part was very interesting, did you know that the Vatican is built on the grounds that were originally devoted to Mithra worship? Also the Orthodox Church has almost exactly the same heirarchy.

    For more info, here's a link :) :
    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen048.html

    • Dannyl
    • January 2, 2010, 1:52 pm
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    ive never really been a believer. nor was i raised 2 be one. i guess that if god IS real, then so are other things.

    • Goober
    • January 2, 2010, 4:11 pm
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    Hahahahahaha. Nice.

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    I hate people who obviously dont read the post who just see "athiest hatin on god" and blindly follow shit that was drilled into their heads or that they were just too stupid to figure out.

    I hate how there is such outcry when an there is an agressive athiest trying to stop people being retarded and wasting their time wish bs. But there are tonnes of people who go door to door trying to sell you religios..

    I hate people who stare factual truth in the face and ignore it. Saying that they are "just right", when they are not.

    I feel sorry for people who truly, truly believe in this and waste their time going to church and talking to nobody. When the main reasons are:
    1. Parents brought them up to believe it.
    2. They actually think it makes sense, possibly because their stupid or they havnt looked into it much.
    3. They cant accept that "this is it" and cling onto stupid beliefs about the afterlife and wasting their time going to church.
    4. There is so much reference to it in society that they just think its the norm at will tell people that they believe in it when deep down they havnt given it any thought

    What people should be glad for is that their DNA, out of ALL the possibities, was lucky enough to fertalise and egg and allow you to be consious. While that sounds like a lot less than what religious offers, its a whole lot better than being ignorant.

    I really dont like religion and all the wars it starts, all the prejudice it creates, all the development it hinders and much much more.

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    Just becuase you cant understand how something works, it doesnt mean everybody doesnt.

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    Its only complex because of big chemical names and long but slow chains of events. Its not complex, its just long. Thats all, not complex.

    All it takes is one beetle to be bread with a mutation(keep in mind that a mutation isnt always bad) and for it to HELP its survival, when it mates, the genes are passed on, thus this mechanism continues on.

    A simple proof of evoluton is the breeding of dogs and Horses, its the same thing with a different shirt on.

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    jesus faith

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    I believe in God because whenever I look in the mirror and see the pure awesomeness that is me, I think to myself, "This couldnt of happened by chance... There has to be a greater being making me as awesome as I am now"

    And that is how I killed the lizard people

    I'm, a stud

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    But why? What says he has always been around and why must it be true?

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    Well, I do not believe in God, but I think that there is something out there. People say they know God is around them when they feel sad. But at the same time 50.000 people elsewhere in the world think that too. How can he be everywhere? Maybe that's because he is god?
    And what about other religions with more gods like in Egypt?
    Which is fake or are they all fake or all true?
    I don't know.

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    Also think that God could be busy with... other planets?

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    Hmm this is very interesting. Look there are those who believe in god and dont believe in god. We as christians cant prove he exist. Just cuz theres a book sayin that god was here doesnt mean it has to be true. How do we know the people who wrote that book was misinterpreting what he really saw or experienced. Others dont belive in god, but cant disprove him either. Look in a part of the bible they say or talk about someone in a flying chariots i dont remember wat but it said that they saw someone in a flying chariots. Back in thos times they didnt know wat an airplane was. So in order to describe it good they had to refernece it because they did not fully understand wat it really was. They said they also saw god come down from heaven. They even drew a picture of it. Ive seen it it looks like good coming down and some whitelight behind him. This is not possible. Ive seen a lot of conspiracy and i kind looked around to explain this phenomenon and the only theory i was able to conclude from this was a UFO. I know this is kinda hard to believe this is seems kinda stupid as well but i believe they saw UFO's. Why else would they put the phrase flying chariots or say that they saw god come down from heaven. there is some supernatural being out there somewhere that has been here in the past. This is wat i believe. I still believe in a god, but there are some phrases in the bible that are really kind of hard to believe. My only theory that really fits why in the bible ive seen phrases that said flying things and god coming down from the sky. Thats literally impossible. The law of gravity or watever it is doesnt permit that. Its not like theres an exception to it. If we can create an anti-gravitational propulsion system then its possible for us to levitate. Thats the only way anyone can come down without falling. This is what i believe, but if u guys think this is stupid so be it.

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    Religion is a function to gain power by controlling uneducated masses through fear and dissolution of self worth. It was created by man and is the plague of mankind. Belief in deities is not an essential human function rather and emotional comfort to those who are not in touch with reality. The bible is just an old fictional book, nothing more.

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    Lol, not taking the bait this time. I can't afford to get wrapped up in ANOTHER argument right now.

    • Ertrov
    • January 10, 2010, 1:47 pm
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    i believe that whatever someone beleives in will be true when they are gone. i beleive this because one religeon cant be the only one that is true. we cant all say that one thing will happen when you die. so whatever you belive will happen, will happen. what you beleive in is true. only you can decide whats real or not for your self. we all choose whats real to us and what isn't. by the way i do beleive in god.

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    why has no other animal evolved to use this then, why just the bombadier beetle?

    plus, what does michael behe know anyway?

    • Simmo49
    • January 16, 2010, 12:37 am
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    Ok the reason I believe in god is just becuase of the complexity of our universe. But here is my version of god..........maybe I'm not sure it's just a thought really.


    Ok the bible says we were created in gods image right. So what if god is like this enourmusly huge life form that has certain powers to controll things. What if god is a cellular being? Now this doesn't really matter as far as going to heaven or hell but it is something to think about.

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    1. This is an argument from incredulity. It is based in part on an inaccurate description of how the beetle's bombardier mechanism works, but even then the argument rests solely on the lack of even looking for evidence. In fact, an evolutionary pathway that accounts for the bombardier beetle is not hard to come up with (Isaak 1997). One plausible sequence (much abbreviated) is thus:

    a. Insects produce quinones for tanning their cuticle. Quinones make them distasteful, so the insects evolve to produce more of them and to produce other defensive chemicals, including hydroquinones.

    b. The insects evolve depressions for storing quinones and muscles for ejecting them onto their surface when threatened with being eaten. The depression becomes a reservoir with secretory glands supplying hydroquinones into it. This configuration exists in many beetles, including close relatives of bombardier beetles (Forsyth 1970).

    c. Hydrogen peroxide becomes mixed with the hydroquinones. Catalases and peroxidases appear along the output passage of the reservoir, ensuring that more quinones appear in the exuded product.

    d. More catalases and peroxidases are produced, generating oxygen and producing a foamy discharge, as in the bombardier beetle Metrius contractus (Eisner et al. 2000).

    e. As the output passage becomes a hardened reaction chamber, still more catalases and peroxidases are produced, gradually becoming today's bombardier beetles.

    All of the steps are small or can be easily broken down into smaller ones, and all are probably selectively advantageous. Several of the intermediate stages are known to be viable by the fact that they exist in other living species.

    • Math
    • January 16, 2010, 3:43 am
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    what you've found above is interesting. can you see how complex this is? i think some might agree that this complex defence mechanism didn't happen by mere chance. can you see where i'm getting at. im not dissing you or anything! just hear me out

    you know how to put up an argument! +1

    • Simmo49
    • January 16, 2010, 11:20 am
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    Einstein said that God exists based on the fact that there is a certain order to the universe and that because there is a certain order, there must be a higher authority who has controlled this in a such a way that all the "coincidences" have happened.

    Secondly, this is about GOd so STOP talking about the silly concept of religion. those two are intertwined but not directly related.

    • Mizuno
    • February 1, 2010, 6:30 pm
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    ppl on this site should quit tlking about religion..
    there is a difference between God and religion.
    Einstein said that God existed due to the fact that there was an order to the universe, and when there is order, there is hierarchy.

    • Mizuno
    • February 1, 2010, 6:35 pm
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    einstein said that our minds are not capable of comprehending a god.

    • Zink
    • February 2, 2010, 11:51 am
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    which gene mutated then?

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    look around at everything you see in nature, it must of been designed. E.g
    Bombardier Beetle

    the bombadier beetle. it can't of been evolution which made this insect, because it squirt a liquid which is at a temperature of well over 150 degrees C, from it's butt! U try squirtin' a liquid at 150degC from ur ass, no, don't think so. it must of been designed!

    • Simmo49
    • January 10, 2010, 11:02 am
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    Don't talk shite! Of course it evolved!
    In your case why didn't it set fire to the Ark? Lol.

    Did you actually read the picture I put up or did you just choose to ignore it and say what the hell liked anyhow?

    By the way nice try at an old argument.

    Evolution of the defense mechanism

    When a bombardier beetle (Brachinus) is threatened by a predator or an offensive invader of any kind, at the appropriate point of approach the bombardier beetle swings his tail-end around and hot, noxious gases, heated to 100ºC , are explosively released from twin combustion tubes right into the face of his enemy. Various quinones are commonly produced by cells in the skin of insects to harden their skin into a cuticle, and as they taste bad to predators, many insects secrete them to deter predators. Where there are indentations in the cuticle, these vary to form little sacs that store the deterrent quinone. Where predators develop resistance to this chemical, other related chemicals such as hydroquinone develop, and in many beetles specialised cells secreting hydroquinone form glands connected by ducts to a reservoir sac, which can be closed off by muscles to stop leakage. While all carabid beetles have this sort of arrangement, in some cases Hydrogen peroxide, which is a common by-product of the metabolism of cells, is mixed in with the hydroquinone, and some of the catalases that exist in most cells makes the process more efficient. The chemical reaction produces heat and pressure, which pushes out the discharge when the insect is attacked, as in the beetle Metrius contractus, which produces a foamy discharge. In other bombardier beetles, the muscles stopping leakage have a flap forming a valve to ensure that the pressure pushes the discharge out, and muscles controlling the outlet have developed nozzles that can direct an explosive reaction to squirt the deterrent chemicals at an attacker. The exact sequence is unknown, and it is common for features with one purpose to become useful for other purposes, a process called exaptation. More detailed scenarios have been developed showing a series of small changes that could have led to this mechanism.[2][3]
    [edit] Creationist dispute

    It has been claimed by some creationists, such as Duane Gish, that the various components needed to make the system work could not have evolved, as they claim that the components provide no benefit in themselves and therefore the entire system would have to have been created at once.

    In his 1996 book Darwin's Black Box, the intelligent design creationist Michael Behe reviewed the same argument as an example of "irreducible complexity", which he claimed to have found in various organisms, but he agreed that Darwinian natural selection may possibly have been responsible for the formation of the bombardier beetle defensive system.[4]

    Another creationist analysis published by Answers in Genesis accepts much of the scientific view, but contends that complexity suggests an origin by design.[4]

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_beetle#Evolution_of_the_defense_mechanism

    • Math
    • January 10, 2010, 11:30 am
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    god's always been around. its hard to get ur ed round, but it's true

    • Simmo49
    • January 2, 2010, 10:12 am
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    um there is one inherent problem with ur arguement.

    this debtae is about god, not religion. although i agree with ur views on religion, partially, i do not agree with ur views on God.

    Einstein said that God existed because of the fact that there is a higher order to the universe and that everything "works out" so therefore there must have been this controlling force that made it this way. he did not however believe in religion because that involves constraints on belief and customs which if God existed, then would be paradoxical to the concept of religion.

    If god did exist, then why pray? Christians trust one man's word with not corroboration, yet in court, the jury turns down evidence proving a man innocent. This world seriously needs some thinking.

    • Mizuno
    • February 1, 2010, 6:34 pm
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