What should and what should not be allowed on Sharenator?

In response to http://www.sharenator.com/What_has_become_of_Sharenator/

From the day Sharenator was launched, we had a "No censorship, except for spam and porn" policy. Spam is obvious and easy to detect, meanwhile pornography is something we had many debates over previously. Nudity is a big no, but where do we draw the line?

Jofus posted the following definition:
"pornography: creative activity (writing or pictures or films etc.) of no literary or artistic value other than to stimulate sexual desire."

Before moderator features are implemented, we should decide what should be allowed on Sharenator, and what should be removed from the site.

Share your opinion, post links of threads as examples of what you think shouldn't be on the site. Don't forget to uprate all the comments you agree with.

One suggestion I really liked was to create a sister site for "not safe for work" content and move every questionable post there. That way we can have a "No censorship, except for spam" policy and keep the main site clean. What do you think about that?

  • Paul
  • May 10, 2010, 3:22 am
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    Ok, here are my two cents...

    I've been a member since almost the beginning, when the site was just starting out back in June of 08. Since then, I've been hooked. The content is good, and the community (for the most part) has been fantastic. Here is what I think should not be allowed.

    Lewd photos/Lewd drawings.
    I understand people post some as jokes, and it may be funny. I even have a few posts of it in there (like one of my first posts) that have pictures that some may view as not safe for work or consisting of half naked women. It was part of a joke, and I don't view anyone else's picture of a woman as part of a joke as offensive.

    However, posts that are specifically dedicated to this, like a post of nothing but Boobs, or posts that show pictures/drawings that lead to debates such as "which one of these chicks would you sleep with", I believe, should not be allowed.

    Uprate parties, forum games, and the such

    Its been shown that lately people are, for a lack of a better term, whoring for points. Yes, points may seem cool, but I don't view getting points as a competition. I view points as someone just looking at a post and "liking" it. The number of points overall are, in my opinion, just there to show how long someone has been around or if he's posted a lot of good material.

    I believe uprate parties should be banned. Its a waste of spam and takes away from the nature of the site. Also, Forum games are also a waste of space. Forum games show no content and again detract from the character of the site.

    Spam/advertisement of posts

    I'm sure this one is a given. Spam should be downrated and deleted immediately.

    As for advertising posts in other peoples posts, for the most part the community has been good about this. However a few new people advertise their posts in other members posts. Thats not what the response function is there for. And making posts asking for points or asking for other content views should not be allowed.

    Mod Features

    I can't really go too much into this because I don't know what Team Sharenator has in mind for these, but if mods are established, the site admins should choose them.

    They should also agree to the rules of being a Moderator, so there can be no abuse of power.

    I believe that the Terms of Service should be redone and reposted, preferably in a place where it is noticeable and where all members can read it. That way if there is a post that violates the terms of service whether it involves the new terms on pornography or spam, the moderators can handle it efficiently and effectively.

    Sharenator is only growing. Soon its going to get so big with so many new features and members that it will be hard to control it. But the most important thing to remember is to POLICE YOURSELVES and watch what you post.

    Thanks for hearing me out.

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    [rant] From my point of view, the only time any form of "naked/half naked" pictures that should be posted on Sharenator is if it is simply part of a joke. The naked/half naked person shouldn't be the main focus of the picture either. I say half naked because some people will see that as okay to put on Sharenator and they will continue to make posts dedicated to women in bikini's. Great to look at, but not something I would want to see here.

    Another thing I've been noticing is that a lot of people are subliminally asking for points by saying, "If this post gets +50, I'll post another edition." Why do we need to be bribed to share when points mean little to nothing. I always thought Sharenator was about posting things that you thought were funny, interesting, or mind blowing, not because it will get you tons of points. What does Ensx get for being #1 rank? NOTHING.

    Another thing I've noticed is that a lot of people are quick to judge something as a repost because they've seen the same punchline somewhere else, not necessarily the same picture. My idea is that if you think something is a repost, put a link to the original. It's very easy to remove a repost since the delete button was added, but no one is going to do that unless there is proof of it being a repost. [/rant]

    My last question is who gets moderator features, and what exactly do they get?

    That sounds dirty XD
    - Icelandgirly May 2, 2011, 8:43 am
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    Mod features. I'll copy my comment from other thread.

    We were able to manage without moderators so far. Sharenator is self-moderating, with members downrating abusive posts/comments and helping to make it pretty much spam-free all day long. A lot of spam (actually, more than 90%) is removed automatically, with the help of our anti-spam bot, the rest is downrated by active Sharenators. We have to delete some posts manually and the work load involved is really minimal. However, I do think that at some point we will need some help, especially if Sharenator continues growing as it did so far.

    Moderators would only be given a right to delete spam and block spammers and other abusers. Every ban will be reviewed to make sure no mistakes were involved. We're not on the site 24/7, so it would be nice to have some people to cover for us, just in case something bad happens while we're away.

    • Paul
    • May 10, 2010, 5:04 am
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    What about "sharehernator"?

    • Math
    • May 10, 2010, 9:35 pm
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    I believe that if you post something as a joke, or just to make light of a situation, then you should be free to do so. But, I am not on this site to view half/fully nude women for purposes to circumvent sexual activity, there are much better sites for that purpose. I, personally, have been a member of this site for the "lulz," so to speak. I enjoy most of the content that has been posted by the other members, but this has gone too far.

    Here is the rule we should abide by: if you want to post something that can be seen in a pornographic nature, do not post it. Self-Control, that is all that it takes to end this argument.

    P.S. The pictures of the scantily clad, personified animals should also fit into this category. I do not see it as porn, but I do think that it is not right. Bestiality is a federal crime in the US.

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    I've only been here just over two months, so I dont know how much my input will matter, but for what it's worth I think it would be a shame for Sharenator to get moderators. It walks all over your original policy of trying to limit censorship; it will only take one moderator to take a dislike to a post to get it banned, where others might not care, and this will create animosity and arguments (and more posts like this about what should or shouldn't be allowed).

    The dificiulties are in defining what's lewd, an age old problem, and the fact that if mod rights are given to those with high points (don't know if that's how it would work) it would encourage point whoring in earnest.

    In theory the points should act as a democratic way of people demonstrating what they do and do not want on sharenator, but this obviously isnt working so far. The perfect way would be to somehow give points a bit more weight, so that the community could be a kind of democratic moderator, possibly by making it automatic that posts getting to say, minus 10, would be deleted. That's just an idea, I know nothing about coding websites so I've no idea how viable it is.

    • Ruleb
    • May 10, 2010, 10:51 am
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    Lewd photos or drawings-------NO
    Uprate parties--------------------MAYBE
    Forum games---------------------YES

    I agree with no lewd photos. With the uprate parties I'm not really partial. If they are or aren't banned I won't whine either way. But I'm sorry I disagree about the forum games. I find them fun sometimes and have no problems with them. But I do see your point.

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    I'm sorry ahead of time and please don't hate me for this. I just had an urge from my inner smart ass to post this.
    pennies - what should and what should not be allowed on sharenator?


    And these would be my two cents. :D

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    This is to respond to your comment about the reposts. It is hard for me to remember the exact post that a repost infringes upon because I have been on this site for so long now. I can tell when something has already been posted, but not always where from. Sometimes, people should trust those of us who have been here longer, such as yourself, when we say that you should take a post down. Seniority.

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    How long do you consider one has to be here before one can have a say on such things?

    • Math
    • May 10, 2010, 9:01 am
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    i agree with alot that was said and i do think there should be a sister site for the more questionable stuff

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    Idk, depends on the post. Some posts were made last week, but others a year and a half ago.

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    Questionator, maybe lol

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    Honestly most of the stuff on here is great the post simply devoted to the human body (male or female) not pertaining to to humor but just for the sake of showing skin or such should not be posted this is a great site for jokes and videos this inst a porn site there are plenty of those but this is the only site like sharenator

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    Well personally I am not crazy about the NSFW sister site. If it's too vulgar for sharenator why do we need it. That just seems to go against what sharenator was when I first began to get on here. I've only been on here for about a year but in the past month or so I've noticed an increased amount of posts dedicated to just scantily dressed women.

    I do kind of like the idea of moderators. Of course the moderators would include yourself and Darius. Maybe it could also include members voted in by the moderators to be moderators. Maybe one moderator per 500 or 1000 members to the site. Any new moderator would have to be approved by at least 1/2 or 2/3 of the moderators. As far as the moderators banning a particular post maybe 80% of the moderators would have to agree on the ban.

    That's my two cents.

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    4chan. That is all.

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    I'm coming in kind of late and everything has been said. I agree most with Wrapped though.

    For those who don't quite get it, here's an example of semi nudity in humour.

    selection 144 19 - what should and what should not be allowed on sharenator?

    • Dannyl
    • May 10, 2010, 11:18 pm
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    Oh yes also with the moderator idea:

    for the moderators communication between the moderators on matters pertaining to removing something from the site should be private between them. Maybe a part of the site where they can talk and not have to worry about spam or too many people throwing in their opinion. Also, if the moderators are going to be away from the site for an extended period of time they probably should let someone know.

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    I don't know about distributing posting rights. That just seems anti-sharenator.

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    I think that as long as it's funny and not just a picture of boobs and whatnot it's okay.

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    I actually think there is too much weight on points. It's become a focus of the site. It's also causing a rise in pointwhores who either post loads of single stuff nobody really wants to see to build up points, make posts just asking for points (first posts, etc) and those who do the whole 'if this gets 100 points i'll make another' crap that seems to have migrated from rubbish sites like funnyjunk.

    • Dannyl
    • May 13, 2010, 2:52 am
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    Can we just remove the points system completely? Or keep points assigned to posts but not users. That way you can tell which posts are popular but you don't get people who are just trying to get points for their account.

    I don't know if that makes sense. If it doesn't just tell me and i'll expand

    • Dannyl
    • May 13, 2010, 2:54 am
    ensx dosen't make god posts he just make hunddreds of them a day
    - castlewarsisawsome May 1, 2011, 4:12 pm
    I agree with you completely. There are some people who hog up the homepage with like 6 posts and are trying to get a shat-load of points and I respect that but give others a chance to post and get noticed instead of being a point whore. Plus if you really have that much time to compile all those posts to try and get all those points you have no life.
    - Bike May 1, 2011, 4:25 pm
    To be fair ensx's flash games got me through classes in high school...
    - mrcbccadetx0 May 1, 2011, 4:31 pm
    still he has way to much games posted
    - castlewarsisawsome May 1, 2011, 4:42 pm
    I could care less, they never make it to the front page and like everyone says, "who cares about the points." It's not like it makes that big of a difference that he keeps the flash tab stocked. Thats just my opinion... All that really matters is I will be taking that #18 rank shortly my friend ;)
    - mrcbccadetx0 May 1, 2011, 4:46 pm
    i save my posts for when the site is slow a lot of the tiem and put it all out at once to get some good stuff going if people see new stuff they keep looking online for other things otherwise they get off. i know thats what i do
    - buddyfoeva May 1, 2011, 4:50 pm
    you have made a challnge my freind no you will pay the price for your insolence
    - castlewarsisawsome May 1, 2011, 4:51 pm
    there are also people myself included who make posts but most of their points are from comments, but if they only comment or just pump or hundreds of junk posts (ensx posts game which I wouldn't consider junk posts) then I agree that they just do it for the rank status. but I mostly agree with jofus because you get to a point where your rank doesn't really mean anything to you.
    - triclebickle May 1, 2011, 5:12 pm
    The gloves are off. Whatever happens I hope we can be friends after. Until then me and GB are taking out the big guns.
    - mrcbccadetx0 May 1, 2011, 5:20 pm
    your demize will come shortly
    - castlewarsisawsome May 1, 2011, 5:35 pm
    We shall see...
    - mrcbccadetx0 May 1, 2011, 5:53 pm
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    Yeah thats right. People should try to get as many points as possible in an ethical manner but not make a big deal out of it.

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    Well I think points drive people to make good posts but gives them something to work for. Also a rank shows who's a member that constantly makes god posts.

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    I see your point, but then there are people who have high rank just from comments. There are also people with very high rank who have just posted a lot, quantity over quality. If you look at it by points per post someone who is rank 20 could be higher than someone who is rank 1 (no stab an Ensx it's just an example)

    • Dannyl
    • May 13, 2010, 11:47 pm
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    Thats pretty funny dude

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    NOT just because I'm a chick, but I agree that there shouldn't be a "just boobs" post. Not because it detracts from the point of the site, but because if you're surfing at work and they pop up, it's very uncomfortable! For the record, there shouldn't be any "just penis" posts either...lol

    I don't care for the uprate parties, because that's def. not why I post, but to each their own.

    As to the games, I don't have an opinion one way or the other. I've never played one before!

    XOXO,
    ClassicD.

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    well the way I see it if we wanted porn of any kind we could find sites for that and sharenator isn't one of them so if its a moti poster that has a may not be safe for work image on it its okay but I've seen posts that were from what I saw dedicated to pics that could be considered semi pornographic and example being http://www.sharenator.com/picdump_13/ and I agree with Wrapped uprate parties have been being used just for point whoring. as far as censorship goes I think that we should keep it low, as long it doesn't cross the line into dis-tasteful to most it's okay.

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    Or maybe people should only be allowed to post a certain amount of items if they have a certain amount of points. This way, people who are posting what we all want to see end up being allowed to post more, wheras users with low rated posts lose the privelage of posting more, unless they can aquire more points, perhaps by deleting low rated posts and trying agian with a better post.

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    Maybe, that's just one idea though. But I think we can all agree that giving points more weight somehow would probably help.

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    I never understood why. Points are just a number, they don't even do anything.

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