I know it's a year late... but appendicitis kills you when the acid in the swollen appendix escapes and damages nearby organs/tissue. Superman is invulnerable, it'd have to be kryptonite acid or something...
Superman isn't actually human... I'm sure there are some vast differences between his anatomy and a human's anatomy that would keep him from getting something like appendicitis. What if he doesn't have an appendix at all? Or a gall bladder? Or ever a liver for that matter?
Goku no doubt. like have you ever SEEN dragonball Z? Goku kicks ass takes name and is generally awesome 24/7. Hes also internationally famous. Also everyone loves Goku. Also.....
i hate that show too but i did see it and i think goku will kick supermans but. the guy moves fast and the power is a little overdone which is why i dont like it that much
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I love both characters GREATLY, especially Superman. However just because that is the circumstance it would illogical to assume that I am be biased towards Superman. I'll do my best with the knowledge of the two characters that I have to try to conclude a reasonable decision. Arguably,Goku is the better fighter in terms of his technique and skill. Also similar to the various versions of Goku there are also various versions of Superman, some being much more powerful than the others. From my understanding Goku has been able to accomplish amazing feats especially in his highest, most powerful form. This goes for Superman as well. The most powerful known form of Superman is Superman Prime (Gold Superman) which is the original Superman who ventures off into the sun and traveled to many different places and I quote "fighting battles unimaginable." (please correct me if I'm wrong)
Now his powers are never mentioned ,but he is the head of the Superman Dynasty. I'm my opinion both characters have a chance of beating one another under various circumstances. The issue I'm finding most common among the comments is that people tend to uses phrases such as "Super-saiyan" and "Super-man" in which they are attempting to prove that a Saiyan is greater than a man, super or not. Even though it is true that a Saiyan is more powerful than a human, the faultiness here is that Superman is not a man but a Krytontian. It is very probable that Kryptonians would give the Saiyans a challenge. Also in term of energy usage the original Superman most commonly uses his heat vision which has been powerful enough to heat the entire planet Earth and Goku's Kamahamaha to destroy an entire planet. To sum it all up, both characters are extremely powerful, it's just ,however, people tend to undermine Superman's abilities. This is only the tip of the iceberg for both characters.
Goku without a doubt i mean come on Goku could destroy a planet without breaking a sweat superman has to struggle to lift a boulder im pretty sure a better match up would be superman vs hercule that would at least be a fair fight
Goku has not been around long enough to be a legend. you must be around as long as, lets just say Superman, to be a legend. Goku is more of an urban myth at this point.
its all about goku! have you even seen Dragonball Z?
like when future trunks comes an kills frieza with no problem, trunks is only half sayian an half human. Goku is all sayian.
So Foku all the way lol
+1 for everyone that votes GOKU:D
Definitely Goku, I mean come on, His power level is OVER 9000!!!!!, he can turn SS4 and he just kicks major fucking ass, plus the dude never stays dead and at the end of DBGT it kinda implies he gained immortality after leaving with shinran, and superman is just a panzy, OH NOES KRYPTONITE! he ALWAYS walks into an obvious trap set by Lex or some other villan and only ever escapes because some one comes to his rescue
One strength that Clark has over Goku is intelligence level. Clark has acquired knowledge from the 28 known galaxies, Goku didn't even go to kindergarten.
Both Superman and Goku are "aliens" from different worlds who took shelter on earth. Both have incredible strength, speed, and power. Both have their own set of weaknesses. Both have their own faults. How is it that one can exist while the other cannot?
Superman is also drawn, both also had a live action movie. Although the Dragon Ball movie was a terrible disgrace, he's still no longer simply a "drawn" character. Besides, neither of them actually do exist (that we know of).
Yep your absolutely right and Goku is always improving and he's immortal for that matter. It's been years since Goku became SSJ4 and Goku always overkills in training so there really is no telling how much stronger he is. Also Goku can never get trapped by Lex luther he's simply too strong. Thats just like when those gangsters tried to trick Goku out of the dragonballs. Superman relies on his powers too much and not technique or skill. Superman telegraphs his punches so much it's sickening.
I have a question about Superman. I just watched the first movie and there is one part that just leaves me baffled.
For those who haven't seen the movie, I shall try my best to describe the seen.
Lex Luthor has a plan to launch two different missiles to the two opposite ends of the U.S. Superman has set out to stop both of these missiles before they impact. He goes after the one headed for the eastern hemisphere first, and by the time he finally gets that one pushed out into space, the other one has already impact the San Andres fault line in San Fran. After the impact, Superman attempts to correct all the things that are happening as a result of the explosion. He reset's the fault line, builds a make-shift damn, so on so forth. However, Lois dies after being crushed by dirt when her car is forced into a large crack in the ground. Superman finally finds her and goes into a rage and flies around the world really fast to turn back time and save her.
The part that I don't understand is why he can fly around the world several times in a matter of seconds when he could only catch one missile that took several minutes to reach it's target? I sense the argument of the fact that he was impaired by kryptonite before he set off, but even still. The scene of him chasing the missile is still a relatively decent amount of time in which, according to the part where he flies around the world, he could have stopped both missiles with plenty of time to spare.
This little paradox has been bothering me since God knows when. If someone has a logical explanation that actually makes sense, I'd love to hear it.
GOKU would totally rapestomp superman, goku can run up a lightning bolt even before dragonball Z so u could just imagine how much he grew wen he goes ssj1 & he can go all the way to ssj4
a surgeon was forced to give Superman a controlled exposure to the mineral in order to temporarily weaken his skin enough to make the incisions necessary to remove internal fragments of the bullet. In some versions, this power greatly retards his aging and increases as he gets older, sometimes rendering him effectively immortal.
Gokus fucked unless a dragons balls contain kryptonite rather than dragon love juice.
Goku, being a Saiyan, has a very delayed aging process. Over the course of his long and still un-ending life-time, he only gets stronger. By way of what happened throughout the whole series, Goku is at least 300 years old. He's had a LOT of time to train, and his strength, power, and technique come naturally to him. Superman is an over-grown lump of steel that wears red underpants and a silly cape.
Goku uses instant transmission to go to krypton, grab some of that green shit, then instantly transports right in supermans face, shoves kryptonite up his ass, then Kamehamehas him right into an empty shallow grave. He then smiles, gives a japanese peace sign, and burns the american flag. The End.
Even if it wasn't destroyed, how would Goku even know to use Kryptonite if he was encountering Superman for the first time? (Goku even has a reputation for being a tad thick headed.)
goku is a smart guy h think when h go into battle e alway try to find superman weakness once he find out what superman weakness is it over goku is going to see the krytonite and at first he be lost he might jest even leave it on the floor but once he see or one king kai tell him or any body tell him or if he see for himself th that super weakness it over but beingthat he a fair fighter he not go to use it on superman
Staying on topic, goku would win in a fight with superman. By the way, goku is nothing like bieber, you dont see him going ape on a full moon or ssj when he reaches a high note. You dont see hendrix being revived tons times. Explain your point better, being on topic, youre saying bieber fights hendrix.
Goku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>superman
ok the fact that this is even a debate is hilarious. goku 100% of the time would, like someone else said, "rapestomp superman"... with one finger. who ever is talking about intelligence in supermans favor. lol clearly you've never been in a fight before. 2+2=4 well no fuckin shit superman is smarter. bill gates is smarter than anderson silva... who would win? duh being smarter in every day life is one thing but were talking about a fist fight here. that shit doesnt matter besides goku isnt much on brains but when it comes to fighting hes a genius. i love the people who bring up Kryptonite in this is also stupid. although goku doesnt have any clear weakness other than his stomach LOL ive seen him forget about that and fight without that changing anything. like goku needs to use the kryptonite. one more thing... Kamehameha!!!! case closed.
I, as an avid DBZ fan, am glad it was cancelled. For a single reason: so it wouldn't grow to be the same thing every battle, every episode, every series. And for that I say that Goku wins hands down. Quite so, redundancy sucks. And for those who would compare it to Hendrix v. Bieber (Hendrix kills), is just like saying Pokemon v. Yu Gi Oh. In which Pokemon pwns, because in the animes pokemon were actual beings, and I believe they could more than handle cards with pictures on them. Point being, stop fucking comparing to other shows dammit.
this is amusing simpe:
saiyan> man
super saiyan > super man
the difference between a saiyan and a man is so gr8 tht the inequality can be written as
(any)saiyan>superman
a better comparison would be Tein or Krillin, because they are also SUPERmen, wenever i see a thread like this its retarded so wat if goku ist as old as superman, he beat pikkon who had been traing for thousands of years, and tht was the first ime he met him. fact is saiyans are stronger than humans. end of argument but no old generation fobs still gotta argue over superman vs.goku , superman has no chance, jesus get over ur delusions, watch both of the shwos then talk, i dunt hate superman but "realistically" (they are both imaginary) Goku wins hands dwon with his eyes closed. good day
johnecash.... ur the the most up tight and retarded person ive ever heard. i feel like ur 1 of proly around 5 ish % of people who are for superman. goku is a lot stronger, faster, has more usefull techniques, a lot smarter fighter than superman. now i love superman and nothing against him just superman would get "rapestomped" by goku in his sleep. there fist fight over. now ur saying some stuppid shit about him being a fad. lol!!! i don't or care how long either have been around i just know superman has been around longer. mk... cool good for him. i don't see either dieing off of anyones mind in the near future. both or huge hits and will be around for years to come. and now to get a bit more off topic. u or someone was saying somethin about the writers changing stuff. i dont see the writers just making superman 100,000 times stronger in the matter of 1, 3, 10, 100 episodes so fuck u. and also if somehow magically superman wins the writers of dragonball will triumph. because if u've seen the series sayins after getting the shit beat out of them or dieing come back far stronger than they were before to win against the enemy so again goku wins there to. soo..... i think that does it. goku >>>>> superman
ps.... superman is still a beast.
You absolutely HAVE to come into my thread and start throwing around shit like that? johnecash is not retarded and has proved it far more times than you have. You want to make a point, make it without being a dick.
"the fact this Goku is even debated to have a chance is an insult to my intelligence. I wonder will Goku still be around in 50 years? Superman will be." ok ok seriously. disco man come on. this is what johnecash was saying when u were against him. now everyone and there mother is hands down saying goku would win no doubt. and hes saying goku wouldnt stand a chance. why the big jump. nobody is even saying it would be a good close fight. its either one is destroying the other. clearly one of the two sides for goku or superman is wrong. now when 90 plus % of people in this debate are for guku hands down i think goku wins. not to mention ontop of what i said earlier. and like what people are saying about how bad one would woop the other. the sides arent even equal. over 90% against less than 10%. now im not the smartest person in the world but i think that 90% is far greater than 10% as goku compared to superman. and if you want to respond towards the numbers im throwing around go ahead you'll just look more like an idiot. i havent taken a survey to find the exact % of people are for who but im guessing from what ive seen and heard id say im pretty spot on. ive ask several friend about this and all but one have said goku. the one for superman has never even seen dragonball. so there just like this pointless question everyone for superman has either not seen dragonball or seen it enought times to make a educated decision. or for some reason just hates dragonball. but it doesnt get away from the fact that goku again would "rapestomp" superman....
Dude I think your taking this just a wee bit to seriously. It's just for fun there's no need to be a dick about it. enough with the whining about who would win. you said what you think now just drop it. nobodies even arguing back to you. Stop trolling it's annoying.
can i just chang the subject to a far more intresting fight. one more fair. id like to see gojeta (not when he only last for 30 mins or less) i mean when hes permanetly fuzed with kai ear rings. (and i dont want to hear from people sayinying his name is vegito when that happens) cuz its still goku fuzed with vegita in the end just i guess one shares more personality traits than the other. anyway ssj 4 gojeta vs. ssj 4 broly... i would say both at ssj 5 but those arent real yet there fan made.
=D would u like to come over here so i can show u whos the real house cat... or maybe just for the thread u can be superman ill be goku. i can show u how the fight would turn out. tough guy...
oh and srry for going a bit over board with this debate just i have this thing. u know... im allergic to stupid shit. just when people say the most retarded things and refuse to admit there wrong, or start shit (disco that be u), i just hate stupid people. srry...
Why not just watch them and enjoy them the way they were meant to be instead of arguing? anyway goku would try not to get into the fight, and superman wouldn't randomly start on goku. they would probably be friends if anything.
I'm glad somebody finally isn't defending either side as if their life depended on it. You're right, they are both good guys so the chances of them getting into a fight to the death is slim to none. Goku is not against sparring though, so that particular scenario is still open to both.
now i have watched both of them and from wat i know superman is strong as h*ll and same goes for goku. goku in his regular form would beat superman a heated battle yes but dont forget when goku becomes a super sayin his power is increased up to 50ty times. there for goku wins besides his best move has infinite power. case closed... and for those who dont know what that move is its the spirit bomb.
The problem with that is the spirit bomb takes WAY too damn long to charge up. In fact, both of his signature attacks take too long. His kamehameha was proven to be too slow in DBGT when he was facing the shadow dragons. As far as the spirit bomb, every time Goku uses it, his friends are around to keep the bad guy busy. Both of those attacks and the time they take would give superman ample time to come after goku and beat the living hell outta him. Whether or not Goku can react in time, defend himself, and provide a decent counter attack depends entirely on whether or not superman decides to take his sweet time. I personally have not watched any superman series except for the movies and they don't really do much justice for how strong superman supposedly is. I've watched each dragonball series at least twice. (DBZ 4 times) It would be virtually impossible for myself to provide an unbiased argument since I know much more about Goku than I do about Superman.
thats true but the charge time depends on the strength of it. also if goku wanted he could easily just instant transmission about a mile away and blow him apart with an enormous kamehameha within a 30 seconds.
freakin kidding me goku is not only 10 tmes faster tHan super man but if super man went to tHrow a punc goku would allready Have at least 20 Hits on Him
now we all know that goku will win because superman draw his power from the sun and the fact that goku can destroy the sun with one blast mean the end for superman case close
im not disagreeing with you about goku winning but he would never destroy the sun to win it would risk to many lives and cause chaos which he would never do to win a fight
oh and for the record disco. sometimes the only way to get a point across is by extremes such as "being a dick". im srry to say that but with ignorant, know it alls like your self and johnecash need to be talked to that way just so they understand the point and even then people like u guys are still to thick headed to understand. so whether u realize it or not or whether u guys want to admit it or not im right your wrong. goku wins and superman loses. ur both stupid. the writers of dragonball win. neither or going away anytime soon. and for the record.... johnecash plzzzzz stop responding. everyone of ur comments in supermans defense have been stupid, pointless, made little to no sense, and/ or pretty much random. give up goku wins. im not trying to sound like i jerk off to goku watch dbz night and day but ive seen more than enought of both to make and educated decision unlike you. u say you've seen dragonball. i dont think u've seen enough and if you have you were not paying attention, asleep, to drunk to remember or idk but clearly ur thinking of a different goku. maybe when he was a kid yea... but idk if you aware of this but goku can go ssj 4 now fyi.
any loser that says goku will freaking die is stupid and dumb because can superman go ss4,ss3,ss2,or even ss1 nooooooooooooooooooooo he cant because goku can heal faster and every time he does this he can get more powerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry johne but i personally enjoy dragonball z more so than superman. i like aliens and shooting things with hand energy and blowing up planets. Its a matter of simple tastes thats all. as for your link, im tryin not to be hatin on peoples opinions but it almost brought me to tears =P
just as you look down on biever fans who don't know jimmi is a god, my generation looks down on yours for thinking goku is going to be around in 50 years. what we do know is superman has survived the super hero's worst villain, cancellation.
Sorry i couldn't reply to your message so i'm replying to this one. Nah my school didn't have any kind of debate team, it's not a common thing in England.
Me and johne just have a habit of arguing with each other about everything. it all started when i climbed upon his mother...
now thats funny, that being said i know its not true. that bitch would kill you where you stand if you ever tried that. she has a nice snub nosed .38 just for the purse.
I'm sorry but DBZ is far too epic to be compared to Justin Bieber. I'm rewatching the entire series with a friend whenever we are back on break (we get quite a few episodes in). And I'm currently in college. I'd say that shows at least some staying quality that DBZ has under its belt.
Although Superman is for sure farther reaching, that has no bearing on the perseverance of the DBZ series or meme.
I couldn't reply directly to your comment, sorry. Well yes he is a human man, even if he's intelligent. Please find a human who was ever a threat to Goku. Also from your brain vs braun comment i'm guessing you're saying Superman is also stupid?
i am saying that superman is not a genius. at the end of the day the people who write the stories can change the game how ever they want. superman is about 80 years old. goku is about 20. lets see if your boy is still around in another 60 years. the biggest threat to any superhero is being canceled. no one has ever fought that villain as well as superman. then again i am the type of person who like jimi hendrix. you may be a justin bieber far. to compare superman to this new comer is like comparing jimi to justin. one is a legend, the other is fad.
Then that point is irrelevant as the argument is about who would win in a fight. There are more people who know the name Hitler than there are people who know the name Brock Lesnar, but i'm betting Brock could still win in a fight
the point is relevant if realize the biggest threat to a superhero is not a villain or another superhero, but to be canceled. Goku could not fight off cancellation. Superman has been doing it for about 80 years now. So Superman wins, Goku could not fight cancellation.
my point is that to be a legend any not just a cult following you must be around in the public eye for a long time. i am willing to bet many more people world wide know the name superman. no so many know goku.
Which has nothing to do with physical, mental, or overall abilities in the world of combat.
Also, I think that Batman might have beat the "villain" of cancellation better than Superman... at least, the movies are about 8 trillion times better.
Superman has been revived TONS of times but they tend to change the plot, subplots, and other characters which is really confusing to follow. So I'm wondering which Superman are you saying?
You're argument is stupid and flawed and the question is Superman VS Goku not Superman VS Dragonball. AND PLEASE STOP COMPARING MUSICIANS TO CARTOONS AND ANIMES. The two are very different.
Dragonball actually HAS a concrete and definite plot. An awesome beginning and a fitting end. Don't get me wrong, I love Superman, but which Superman actually?
there is has has always been only one superman. even during the doomsday saga there was only one true superman. yes he has changed. but who would not change over 80 years?
dragon ball has been around since the 80s, so its not exactly new. superman is more famous of course, but superman has been around since the 40s (but that is irrelevant)... i think the post was based on the fictional character, not it's existence in the real world.
based on how theyre described within their own show, lets do it this way, since i watched dbz when i was a kid i still remember.
superman: faster than a speeding bullet. goku can move faster than light. superman: more powerful than a locomotive, goku: more powerful than entire planets, superman: able to leap tall buildings in a single bound (and fly). goku: can fly, teleport across the universe, and jump into space. (and apparently survive the vacuum of space) ... just saying.
this has nothing to do with comparing talent between a talented musician, and a manufactured cookie cutter pop star.
in my younger days i used to read comics. some of my favorite comics were vs comics. Spiderman vs Wolverine (i am sure you get the idea) the one thing i learned from it is this, what happens no matter what you may think is up to the people who draw and wright the stories. you may have an idea what would happen but it is up to the companies to decide what happens.
the comparison of the two is to point out that just as your generation feels about Beiber when compared to Jimmi, its the same way my generation feels about Superman and Goku.
At the end of the day as to who would win its up to the people who draw and edit the stories. there is no way to compare the two since the rules of the game can and will be changed according to the editors.
Johne, let me ask you something, and please be honest. It's obvious that everyone hear has watched some form of Superman whether it be a T.V. Show or a movie just because they wanted to. Have you ever watched ANY of the 3 Dragon Ball series? If not, would you ever want to?
yes i did watch series 1 on cartoon network years ago. there is something magical about anime to younger kids. i remember when i was into it. akira, galgo 13, tank police and many more were a staple of my childhood. by the time i had watched dragon ball comics and anime just were not as magical, or more importantly to me original any more. when most of the younger kids on this site were for the first time watching anime, i had seen most of it, enjoyed it, and gotten over it. just as you don't watch the same programing now as when you were 4, my taste have changed. more power to you if you enjoy it. while the show no longer holds any value to me, just as twilight, justin biever, the back street boys, hanson, or boys to men, it does not mean its crap if you enjoy it.
An insult to your intelligence? Both Goku and Superman are imaginary beings. Both are meant as nothing more than entertainment. It doesn't matter which one wins or loses, it is just a matter of opinion. You are probably the only person alive who is actually insulted by a meer question over the internet. Good job buddy, you just proved yourself to be insecure.
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if not superman as he is technically invulnerable to everything exept magic and kryptonite
Now his powers are never mentioned ,but he is the head of the Superman Dynasty. I'm my opinion both characters have a chance of beating one another under various circumstances. The issue I'm finding most common among the comments is that people tend to uses phrases such as "Super-saiyan" and "Super-man" in which they are attempting to prove that a Saiyan is greater than a man, super or not. Even though it is true that a Saiyan is more powerful than a human, the faultiness here is that Superman is not a man but a Krytontian. It is very probable that Kryptonians would give the Saiyans a challenge. Also in term of energy usage the original Superman most commonly uses his heat vision which has been powerful enough to heat the entire planet Earth and Goku's Kamahamaha to destroy an entire planet. To sum it all up, both characters are extremely powerful, it's just ,however, people tend to undermine Superman's abilities. This is only the tip of the iceberg for both characters.
If Goku wins, then Superman becomes his friend 10 episodes later.
If Superman wins, then Goku comes back every season for 50 years and tries a new strategy.
It took like a dozen episodes JUST for 5 minutes of Frieza VS. Goku to go by... quite a long wait... but still epic.
Of course it's from DBAF which we all know is fan made but still. He's in mugen.
he can go like super saiyan and supermans just all curly haired and shit :(
like when future trunks comes an kills frieza with no problem, trunks is only half sayian an half human. Goku is all sayian.
So Foku all the way lol
+1 for everyone that votes GOKU:D
why:goku can never exist in the real world.
superman could exist.
case closed.
For those who haven't seen the movie, I shall try my best to describe the seen.
Lex Luthor has a plan to launch two different missiles to the two opposite ends of the U.S. Superman has set out to stop both of these missiles before they impact. He goes after the one headed for the eastern hemisphere first, and by the time he finally gets that one pushed out into space, the other one has already impact the San Andres fault line in San Fran. After the impact, Superman attempts to correct all the things that are happening as a result of the explosion. He reset's the fault line, builds a make-shift damn, so on so forth. However, Lois dies after being crushed by dirt when her car is forced into a large crack in the ground. Superman finally finds her and goes into a rage and flies around the world really fast to turn back time and save her.
The part that I don't understand is why he can fly around the world several times in a matter of seconds when he could only catch one missile that took several minutes to reach it's target? I sense the argument of the fact that he was impaired by kryptonite before he set off, but even still. The scene of him chasing the missile is still a relatively decent amount of time in which, according to the part where he flies around the world, he could have stopped both missiles with plenty of time to spare.
This little paradox has been bothering me since God knows when. If someone has a logical explanation that actually makes sense, I'd love to hear it.
GOKU would totally rapestomp superman, goku can run up a lightning bolt even before dragonball Z so u could just imagine how much he grew wen he goes ssj1 & he can go all the way to ssj4
Gokus fucked unless a dragons balls contain kryptonite rather than dragon love juice.
Goku uses instant transmission to go to krypton, grab some of that green shit, then instantly transports right in supermans face, shoves kryptonite up his ass, then Kamehamehas him right into an empty shallow grave. He then smiles, gives a japanese peace sign, and burns the american flag. The End.
ok the fact that this is even a debate is hilarious. goku 100% of the time would, like someone else said, "rapestomp superman"... with one finger. who ever is talking about intelligence in supermans favor. lol clearly you've never been in a fight before. 2+2=4 well no fuckin shit superman is smarter. bill gates is smarter than anderson silva... who would win? duh being smarter in every day life is one thing but were talking about a fist fight here. that shit doesnt matter besides goku isnt much on brains but when it comes to fighting hes a genius. i love the people who bring up Kryptonite in this is also stupid. although goku doesnt have any clear weakness other than his stomach LOL ive seen him forget about that and fight without that changing anything. like goku needs to use the kryptonite. one more thing... Kamehameha!!!! case closed.
saiyan> man
super saiyan > super man
the difference between a saiyan and a man is so gr8 tht the inequality can be written as
(any)saiyan>superman
a better comparison would be Tein or Krillin, because they are also SUPERmen, wenever i see a thread like this its retarded so wat if goku ist as old as superman, he beat pikkon who had been traing for thousands of years, and tht was the first ime he met him. fact is saiyans are stronger than humans. end of argument but no old generation fobs still gotta argue over superman vs.goku , superman has no chance, jesus get over ur delusions, watch both of the shwos then talk, i dunt hate superman but "realistically" (they are both imaginary) Goku wins hands dwon with his eyes closed. good day
ps.... superman is still a beast.
You absolutely HAVE to come into my thread and start throwing around shit like that? johnecash is not retarded and has proved it far more times than you have. You want to make a point, make it without being a dick.
Goku FTW. >:D
I'm flattered... sort of.
This thread is old anyways, all your doing is causing a pointless shitstorm.