Sharenator Original Content Proposal

Short version (TL;DR)

1. Bringing back “Sharenator Original” section of the site
2. Rewarding Original Content (monetary Youtube like Partner program)
3. Quality control

Longer version

Many Sharenators have expressed concern about the lack of original content on Sharenator. Some took initiative and made really interesting posts. Others generously upvoted.

I’ve been thinking a lot about this. Could original content thrive on Sharenator? What can we do to make it so?

Here’s my proposal and I’d like to hear (read) your opinions and suggestions. Just note that this is just and idea in consideration and I need your help polishing it.

Bringing Sharenator Original back
Once upon a time Sharenator had “Original” category on the site. Most of the post in this section were created by either me or Darius in effort to promote Sharenator. The posts would receive a lot of attention, bring new visitors to the site and that’s how the first members of the site learned about Sharenator. Later on, we got buried under increasingly big to-do list for Sharenator and this section was abandoned. We had to remove Sharenator Original category as nothing was happening there.
How about we bring this category back and everybody could contribute? A simple check box “This is an original post” could be added to “New Post” page.

Sharenator Partner program
Points are cool, but how about real coins? As a perfect example I’d love to mention Youtube - it is a very good example of a proper partnership program and monetary incentivisation system. You get accepted to the program if you contribute with original content and your content is good/popular enough.

Currently Youtube pays $2.5 for 1000 views. Just to put things in perspective, if Sharenator had such system, the most viewed post on Sharenator (“World’s strangest looking animals” - 1.8 million views) would be worth 4,500 USD. A post with 10,000 views would yield 25 USD.

There are 7 posts with more than 1 million views, 189 posts with more than 100,000 views and over 2,100 posts with more than 10,000 views. Most of these posts are still getting a good deal of traffic passively (either from people browsing the top lists on Sharenator, or from search engines - Google seems to like Sharenator). There is a lot of potential for new posts.

Not only this may be a good motivation to contribute with good original content, but this would also make sharenator attractive to a lot more people, especially the creative ones.

Becoming a Partner and quality control
The rules would be simple - make a good post following the quality guidelines and you would be invited. Each post marked as original would have to go through quality control team (in this case, team Sharenator). The rules would not be too restrictive - simply following the TOS of the site, no copy-pasting from other websites, all sources must be attributed.

Promoting your social pages
This one would be for people wanting to promote their brand or services. For example, a photographer wanting to advertise their facebook, twitter or simply personal website - such badges could be displayed next to author’s post and we would make sure they are well visible, catching the attention of visitors browsing the site.

Brainstorm room
(again, another idea that needs polishing)
Sometimes a good article idea would come very easily, but sometimes inspiration may be needed. Some people have way too many ideas. For this reason, Sharenators would have access to a section with article ideas posted by others. Everybody would be able to post their ideas, vote on ideas they like and comment (post contributions).
The entire point of this would be to make it fun, collaborative and competitive.
That’s when our crediting system comes to help - you would credit people that helped you brainstorm the article.

New platform
Sharenator v2 is coming soon. The new version will include: A fresh design, live commenting system and most importantly - ability to create and follow new boards or communities on Sharenator. This means that Sharenator will not be just funny pictures anymore. Photographers (rock climbers, cooks, technology enthusiasts, gamers, etc) will have their sections on the site. While this could cause some unintended consequences, like Bacon community waging a war against Vegan community (alright, I’m actually looking forward to this), the most important thing is that Sharenator will be a perfect platform for wide variety of topics for posts, discussions and articles. It would be simple to choose a topic to write about - simply write about things you love.

How about “Photography” for a quick example?
8 Effects Every Photographer Should Know About and What is Lomography by CallMeGoogle are a couple of excellent articles.
And here are a few posts with SuDoku’s photogprahy: SuDoku's Irish Adventure, Photos of mine, My little project, A few of my photographs.

I really look forward to having Photography section on the site.

Alright, let’s list some Pros and Cons
Post a comment if you see any - I’ll update the list.

- More original content on Sharenator
- New creative members joining the site
- ?

- There may be people trying to game the system to get into the top list with their posts to get more traffic (not really a big problem, we can detect that)
- People will be trying to abuse it (regulation and quality control is a must)
- ?

sharenator original

So, what do you you guys think?
Ideas posted here still need polishing, so any feedback would really help. Is this a good idea? Would you participate? Do you see any drawbacks or any potential issues with this proposal?

  • Paul
  • June 14, 2012, 6:39 am
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  • 9

    The idea of having OC on sharenator is the deal sealer. Creativity isn't my strong point, but if I could do it then damnit I would!

    • Disco
    • June 14, 2012, 7:16 am
  • 6

    Greetings from Japan. Forgive me for not interacting with the site lately, it has been a bit hard due to what's been going on with me these last few months, but rest assured I still keep my eyes on things and pop my head in from time to time. I agree that sharenator original should return. It was one of my most favorite parts of tw site, although it was vastly underused. However, with the idea of page hits for cash, I would tread carefully. People might try to abuse the system. If you do implement that sort of system, it should be heavily regulated. People should be able to post whatever original content they want, but there should be limits on how many posts can count for cash per day or something along those lines. Also, it should be heavily moderated in order to prevent people from posting unoriginal stuff or spamming original stuff that has no substance just for the purpose of page hits.

    Also Paul, I know it's been a while but I would like to catch up on things. Please message me on Facebook or Skype and we can talk more if you wish. It's been a long few months, but I look forward to catching up with a lot of you guys who I've known for a few years, and to helping make this community and site a lot better.

    - bostonboy86 June 14, 2012, 7:28 am
    That's why a post must go through quality control, so yeah - it would be regulated.

    Sure, I'll message you on Facebook to catch up. I didn't know you are in Japan now!
    - Paul June 14, 2012, 8:03 am
  • 5

    Sounds good. Where would this partner money be coming from though? Advertising?

    • Jozzoh
    • June 14, 2012, 8:24 am
    Correct. Revenue is from ads (only visible to non-registered visitors).
    - Paul June 14, 2012, 8:26 am
  • 5

    I used to have a post in the Original section, was a proud moment for me haha.

    But yeah it sounds good, people would try harder with their posts, instead of continuous 'pic dumps' that all have the same pictures in. I'm in.

  • 4

    i approve - sharenator original content proposal

    • Ertrov
    • June 14, 2012, 7:00 am
  • 4

    I'm in! honestly i think it's a great idea and way to reward people for being creative. I would love to be a part of this and hope i can contribute to the site as much as I possibly can be it moderating as usual or getting some original content up. you're correct in saying that people will try and abuse it so the limits should be put in place on number of original posts per day but also on the length of content and the quality of the posts.
    I'm gonna use some of my own posts for examples because I don't want to call other people out but i would also like to hear whether or not you agree with what i'm saying. so one of my posts wrestling 1 has a very high number of views (19,801 for those interested) and i can claim it to be all original content. But i also feel it may lack the depth to truly be considered as original content meaning it only has a few lines in it and no explanations about where i was or anything. So i was wondering what would be the ruling on a post such as this as it could be considered as photography i guess. a second post i would like to draw attention to is top 5 which has over 14,000 views. while this is an original idea i also feel it lacks the quality to be considered original content. this is due to it being an asking type post and has little content to it. If something like this were to have added content such as an explanation and some comments about it that truly added to making it an enjoyable post then i would say it should be considered.

    Also another thing to look out is someone stealing ideas. for example i've noticed several times that once i posted a facebook fails page some one will almost immediately do a post of similar content. now don't get me wrong i really dont care about this as it's not exactly like they are stealing my idea or original content i created and to be honest i enjoy looking at the other posts BUT i also feel you could very quickly run into a similar issue with people ripping off peoples ideas for their own use to gain a profit. just something to watch out for

  • 3

    This would be great :)

    Wether you decide to do it as a partnership program like YouTube or just simply individual posts being Original, this would be excellent! Not only will it keep people more interested in the site, but as you say, would actually make Sharenator a site other people would be interested. And it would also make it more unique - unlike Funnyjunk and 9GAG who just get popular then go to war with 4chan.

    Something that would be important though would be to brand/watermark OC. Is it possible to put a watermark over an image but not show it on the site? For example - 9gag put a banner at the bottom which is chopped off by the webpage, but is there when you save the image. Could there be a lightweight way to watermark an image if someone refers it from another site (eg. <img src="[img][/img]>), but not show it when you view it here?

    Anyway - think about it further. It's a great idea and you should seriously consider it if you can afford it.

    That's possible. Only on original images though. We don't want to to put watermarks on images we don't have any rights to. That is very unfair to actual authors. I can only imagine how many people are pissed at 9GAG and similar sites for watermarking their work.
    - Paul June 14, 2012, 9:20 am
    Yeah, that's what I meant. Definitley. We don't want our site branded like this

    and this:

    NOTE: This only happened because The Oatmeal was pissed that funnyjunk users stole his comics, sometimes unbranding them/putting their name on it, then funnyjunk gets tons of money for the stolen work.
    - SkinnyBill June 14, 2012, 10:12 am
    I don't think we have to worry about that. Funnyjunk's lawyer is also trying to shut down The Oatmeal's fundraiser for charity lol. Sharenator admins seem much better than Funnyjunk's :P
    - casper667 June 14, 2012, 11:33 am
    The point is - especially the way things are going with SOPA and PIPA and CISPA and all these web-related acronyms, it is going to start to be very important to provide source links to external material.
    - SkinnyBill June 14, 2012, 1:44 pm
    and off to 4chan i post
    - castlewarsisawsome June 14, 2012, 3:56 pm
    I looked into this a few days ago and from what it seems sharenator is in good standing with the oatmeal because even if it doesn't say the oatmeal on a picture usually the title says something about oatmeal.
    - triclebickle June 14, 2012, 4:26 pm
    the hell is CISPA? did i miss something? or was that the child porn one they did?
    - 24paperwings June 14, 2012, 4:34 pm
    It's to do with privacy and censorship AFAIK
    - SkinnyBill June 14, 2012, 5:06 pm
  • 2

    Sounds like a very interesting way to get site popularity up. Great idea sharenator staff.

  • 2

    Isn't there rules about this kind of partnership stuff regarding age? I know for a fact that there are people who are under 18 and could contribute some good OC. Not really sure how that would work.

  • 2

    I love this. I love everything. I want to make sweet love to y-

    Sorry. It slips out sometimes.

    But great ideas all around if they can be implemented properly.

  • 2

    The idea for a sharenator partnership program is great and youtube has a great system to study. Though regulation would be a big factor, now I'm not entirely clear on the current mod force, so it would probably be a good idea to bring in more mods to deal with general site affairs and move some of the senior mods to deal strictly with with the OC section. Also it would also probably be a good idea to have a proving period before revenue kicks in, something like a post must have 1000 views before it starts getting revenue and everything past that point is revenue building.

    honestly i don't think we need more mods but we could remove some of those who haven't been active for ages. if i counted right there 42 mods already though some aren't really on the site anymore. plus with the ban hammer and how we've decapitated the spam bots there really isn't much for us to do right now. i agree with the trial period though just to make sure the kinks are worked out before hand and really money is being exchanged. if we do this then we can save a lot of trouble later on down the road.
    - 24paperwings June 14, 2012, 4:32 pm
    Wasn't clear on mod force standings but with 42 even given the non actives that's plenty and when you have other members who aren't mods alerting mods of posts everything seems to be under control.
    - triclebickle June 14, 2012, 4:36 pm
    yea i admit i haven't need to do much for the site mainly because everyone is so good at keeping it clean. for the most part the only issues that come up anymore are the ones with flagging and i think even thats calmed down a bit granted i think some lurkers are still doing stuff but still i haven't seen the site running this smoothly in a long time. this new idea is sure to have a couple problems at first but with this many mods working together it shouldn't be much of a problem. one thing i would like to see though is maybe if the Mods could get together every once in a while (maybe once every two weeks and make it optional to miss given they have a reason) to be updated on what should be going on in the site. if we all can communicate and agree on what we do in certain situations before hand (such as when were having debates about picdumps) then it should make this much easier on all of us mods and make the site even better for the users. i understand that its a volunteerish type position but this should be treated a little more as a job for mods (obviously not as though we need to be on here for set amount of times just more to keep us and the site a little organized for when issues arise)
    - 24paperwings June 14, 2012, 4:58 pm
    yeah a meeting every few weeks would allow mods to let others know about issues they've noticed and accounts that are problematic.
    - triclebickle June 14, 2012, 5:09 pm
  • 1

    I'm all for it!

  • 1

    I approve of this so hard. Here, have a cake
    Trey Holding Cake

    the cake is a lie...
    - MIKYTEY June 14, 2012, 5:35 pm
    My cake isn't a lie... Its full of bleach- I mean icecream... yeah...
    - SuperPost June 14, 2012, 8:31 pm
  • 1

    I remember OC. That was amazing and new! So we are getting it back?

    • dogggy
    • June 14, 2012, 6:46 pm
  • 1

    That all looks awesome also im scrolling through the comments and holy hell you guys i thought a bunch of you left

    we shall never leave! though i may be killed later lol
    - 24paperwings June 15, 2012, 12:23 am
  • 1

    Well this sounds like a good idea, but once again, there will always be people that will try to abuse the system.
    What counts as OC? Something that is completely & entirely made by you and only you? For example, can you take pictures that have already been created and add extra bits to it to add to the humour? Would that count as OC? For example, if someone found a picture on the internet & added the black outline & the funny saying like this, would it be good enough OC?
    regrets - sharenator original content proposal

    What about when they take an image that has already been edited & add another layer of funny like this?
    rule 34 - sharenator original content proposal

    What about youtube videos? Can you make your own youtube video & upload it here as OC? How can people prove that it is their own content when for a start, youtube usernames might not match sharenator ones and even if they do match, it is very easy in this day & age to download someone else's video and upload it to your own account.

    There needs to be a line in the sand where something either is definitely OC or is definitely not OC. If there is any confusion, people will get annoyed. But that is just my thoughts.

  • 1

    Sooooooo any chance we are actually doing this? it may provide some incentive in getting old members to post again and bring in some new people. besides i think it'd be cool to work with Sharenator as a partner and create some new OC for members. it makes it even better knowing that the contributions we make are actually helping to bring more people to the site.

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