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RE: Religion

  • Ertrov - replied 2011-07-31 14:25:13
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    The only danger in that is that as long as the god-myth is perpetuated, there WILL be fanatics and bloodshed. Only a few usually, but is that worth a false hope?
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    • 24paperwings - replied 2011-07-31 15:24:48
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      it's only false hope so long as we think it's false. right now it's just hope.
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      • Ertrov - replied 2011-07-31 15:36:34
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        False hope is hope that is not based on fact. Science has shown us that religion is false. Therefore it's false hope.
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        • 24paperwings - replied 2011-07-31 15:39:59
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          like i said religion is based on faith i believe therefore he live's. science has proven only some things wrong not all of it.
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          • Ertrov - replied 2011-07-31 16:07:36
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            Science: "We believe in what we can provide evidence for."
            Religion: "You can't prove god doesn't exist, so he does."
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            • 24paperwings - replied 2011-07-31 16:22:24
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              science has yet to prove wether or not he exists don't right now you're basically saying
              "science hasn't proven he exists so he doesn't"
              it's the same damn thing. i can believe he exists as long as there is no proof of him but i can deny he exists because theres no proof of him. it's the same concept.
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              • Ertrov - replied 2011-07-31 16:28:18
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                The difference is we have a shitload of evidence that he doesn't exist, and none at all that he does. Way different.
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                • 24paperwings - replied 2011-07-31 16:38:38
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                  god damnit you're to logical to argue with. you base all of life on fact and hard evidence sometime's life requires you to let go of what you can hold in your hands and calculate. by doing so you free who you are and open up the world. that is what religion does for you believe in something trust yourself to another being. when the end comes you could be surprised.
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                  • Ertrov - replied 2011-07-31 16:42:38
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                    "god damnit you're to logical to argue with".

                    How does that make sense?
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                  • 24paperwings - replied 2011-07-31 17:06:31
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                    all i know is that my faith has no harm on any other persons day to day life i can not prove his existence to you and all we are doing is running around like a couple of chickens with our heads cut off. i maintain my position and hope that i am right. need less to say im sure you think that you are completely correct but hopefully faith comes to you some day :P godfucking damnit i hate arguing for the religious side it makes me sound like a fucking preacher
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                • 24paperwings - replied 2011-07-31 16:45:42
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                  you think in a logical manner meaning you have zero imagination meaning you can't conceive the possibility of a higher power meaning you will only believe in god if there is proof of god meaning you wouldn't actually faith thereby defeating the purpose of religion thereby destroying the purpose of god.
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                  • Ertrov - replied 2011-07-31 16:48:41
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                    I actually have a good deal of imagination. I'm a writer. The trick is distinguishing fiction from reality.
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            • Omais - replied 2011-07-31 16:20:16
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              @Ertrove you mean every thing which is viewed exists?
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              • Ertrov - replied 2011-07-31 16:22:49
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                No. Something's you see don't and somethings change if viewed but lets not get into quantum physics, because it's confusing as hell.
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                • Omais - replied 2011-07-31 16:28:37
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                  leave quantum physics... what do you think?
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                  • Ertrov - replied 2011-07-31 16:30:45
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                    What does that even mean? Are you saying you don't believe in quantum physics? Or are you telling me not to use them, I don't... I don't know what... ah fuck it, I give up. Just stop talking.
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Religion
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