Oh computers, why art thou so plentiful
Just to start, I apologize for all the discussion posts. My new phone the HTC thunderbolt is great, but I cannot add pictures to posts or comments through sharenator so at work I am limited to this. But getting back on topic...
I have been looking around at new computers and some are spiking my interest. I have a MAC at the moment with Windows dual booted on it. I only use the Windows for gaming but having to reboot whenever I want to get to my actual computer is annoying and tedious, so I am looking into buying a Windows computer purely for gaming. And no I do not want an alienware, I have the money but they are way over priced.
HP seems good to me but I've gotten other opinions. Which brand do you guys think is the best for high end performance?
A few brand names I've checked out:
Acer
HP
Asus
Dell
Etc.
I have been looking around at new computers and some are spiking my interest. I have a MAC at the moment with Windows dual booted on it. I only use the Windows for gaming but having to reboot whenever I want to get to my actual computer is annoying and tedious, so I am looking into buying a Windows computer purely for gaming. And no I do not want an alienware, I have the money but they are way over priced.
HP seems good to me but I've gotten other opinions. Which brand do you guys think is the best for high end performance?
A few brand names I've checked out:
Acer
HP
Asus
Dell
Etc.
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Posted: 2011-08-12 04:45:21
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bufus, save your money, and I will help you. Newegg.com and read a tutorial on how tocustom build. I Learned through trial, and now I build them on a regular basis.
Buy yourself. I would be glad to help you. Computers are my passion in life and I actually have build not only my own, but multiple others.
Hell, if you want, give me a budget and I can link you to parts for that price. If you REALLY wanted, have'em shipped here and I'd put it together for you, but I don't quite know you on that level, so...
Hell, if you want, give me a budget and I can link you to parts for that price. If you REALLY wanted, have'em shipped here and I'd put it together for you, but I don't quite know you on that level, so...
Yeah I understand. I am very interested in computer buy I lack the will to read up too much on them. but I am always interested. putting s computer together isn't too hard right? You just need the right parts that work well together and a case that will fit everything lol
Pretty much. Mind you, it can be a tad complex trying to make sure you route the cables the right way, plug in the correct connector with the correct molex... but all the components come with manuals incase you get lost. If need be, I have Skype. I could walk you through it.
P.S.: Never buy Dell. We have one downstairs that I suped up, those things are impossible to work it. I managed, but... dear god...
P.S.: Never buy Dell. We have one downstairs that I suped up, those things are impossible to work it. I managed, but... dear god...
Yeah dell seems like they were the company that started the whole build your own computer idea but recently haven't caught up to speed with everyone else. I don't like dell much anyways. One I'm familiar with is HP. I do like their computers, my best friend got one and its nice. Asus seems a little too strange for me but I don't know its capabilities. Idk about others
Quick run-down of prebuilt companies:
Dell: Why you would bother? No idea. Low price, low power, bad components, meh cases.
Acer: Known as the 'Two year' computer. Approx. two years from purchase, something goes wrong. Moderately priced.
HP: Good brand, bad hype. Their computers generally are well priced, but they do something that throws people off: Sup-up one part of the computer and standardizing the rest. Ex. Great Processor, but mediocre others. 12GB of RAM, but running an Intel core 2 duo from 5 years ago.
Alienware: Dell with a cooler case.
ASUS: Great motherboards, DVD burners, ect., great laptops, not so good at desktops. Can be expensive.
Gateway: Honestly not bad. Pretty middle of the road. Never liked their logo.
Other prebuilts: lolwut?
Dell: Why you would bother? No idea. Low price, low power, bad components, meh cases.
Acer: Known as the 'Two year' computer. Approx. two years from purchase, something goes wrong. Moderately priced.
HP: Good brand, bad hype. Their computers generally are well priced, but they do something that throws people off: Sup-up one part of the computer and standardizing the rest. Ex. Great Processor, but mediocre others. 12GB of RAM, but running an Intel core 2 duo from 5 years ago.
Alienware: Dell with a cooler case.
ASUS: Great motherboards, DVD burners, ect., great laptops, not so good at desktops. Can be expensive.
Gateway: Honestly not bad. Pretty middle of the road. Never liked their logo.
Other prebuilts: lolwut?
Haha Idk any other popular companies. and yeah well with HP you have to check to make sure all the components are up to date before buying. And really with acer? That's weird. and yeah some Asus laptops look like they have jet engines on them lol. Heard they are a good gaming laptop
I completely agree with FireRoasted on everything he's said. Plus, building your own computer gives you a much better appreciation for your system. They really aren't hard to build at all, as long as you make sure everything is securely and properly connected you can do it in a day. I love building computers but sadly, I don't have the funds to keep building new ones :D
Amen brother. My rig may be little, but it punches like Mike Tyson:
Thermaltake Armor A30 Minitower case (nice, but I'm going bigger soon)
Gigabyte Mobo
AMD Phenom II x6 1090T Thuban slightly OC'd at 3.45GHz
8GB G.skill DDR3 @ 1333
and... XFX ATI Radeon HD 6950.
I call it my mini-Combat Rig. No game even hinders her. No joke, with SCII open and maxing 1000+ instances on screen, she uses only 45% RAM capacity and 25-30% CPU usage.
I loled.
Thermaltake Armor A30 Minitower case (nice, but I'm going bigger soon)
Gigabyte Mobo
AMD Phenom II x6 1090T Thuban slightly OC'd at 3.45GHz
8GB G.skill DDR3 @ 1333
and... XFX ATI Radeon HD 6950.
I call it my mini-Combat Rig. No game even hinders her. No joke, with SCII open and maxing 1000+ instances on screen, she uses only 45% RAM capacity and 25-30% CPU usage.
I loled.
Posted: 2011-08-12 11:01:11 Report
You heard from an Intel fan boy then. Plus, Phenom are powerful and much better priced than Intel.
AMD also plans to blow Intel sky-high this year with their new Bulldozer 8-core processors.
AMD also plans to blow Intel sky-high this year with their new Bulldozer 8-core processors.
Bufus, to be honest, you'll find hundreds of reviews from either side. The one key thing that keeps BOTH running as companies is Fan boys.
I'm just telling you from my view point after starting Intel all my life, then switching to AMD. Tell ya what, never going back to Intel unless AMD goes bankrupt.
I'm just telling you from my view point after starting Intel all my life, then switching to AMD. Tell ya what, never going back to Intel unless AMD goes bankrupt.
You should consider trying Socket 2011 from Intel, its being released in December. It's the next generation enthusiast grade processor from Intel. It is going to build off of the 2nd gen I7s and include the Northbridge Chipset on the processor which will be able to handle quad channel RAM, Up to 8 RAM DIMMS, and with the Northbridge Chipset out of the way, sitting snugly in the processor, you get more bandwidth between the processor and the RAM, giving you a better performing computer.
Posted: 2011-08-15 17:51:16 Report
This truly is the best way to build a computer. I built my own about a month ago with some pretty decent specs. Obviously not top of the line, but they work pretty freakin' nice.
Intel i3 2120 ~3.3GHz with heatsync
8GB DDR3 RAM ~1333MHz
MSI H67MA-E35 mobo
1 TB SATA HDD
Nvidia GeForce GTX 280
1600 x 900 HD monitor
Pretty awesome looking LED's on the case too. It has about 3 fans and the computer itself is SO quiet it's not even funny.
Thing cost me maybe $800 total.
Intel i3 2120 ~3.3GHz with heatsync
8GB DDR3 RAM ~1333MHz
MSI H67MA-E35 mobo
1 TB SATA HDD
Nvidia GeForce GTX 280
1600 x 900 HD monitor
Pretty awesome looking LED's on the case too. It has about 3 fans and the computer itself is SO quiet it's not even funny.
Thing cost me maybe $800 total.
Go for a custom from a site likewww.ibuypower.com/ I haven't used their website but it looks reasonable and most systems hold a lot of power.
@bufus101 i think DELL would be better for you..
i had a experience of HP, its not for hardcore user so that i suggest DELL for you..its better than HP.
i consider upon my knowledge about Hardware:
1- IBM
2- DELL
3- Acer
4- HP
now its up to you!
i had a experience of HP, its not for hardcore user so that i suggest DELL for you..its better than HP.
i consider upon my knowledge about Hardware:
1- IBM
2- DELL
3- Acer
4- HP
now its up to you!
I love the way you say "I don't want Alienware because they are overpriced" directly after saying you have a Mac xD
Personally I would keep the Mac, and if it was powerful enough, you could run the games in a virtual machine, which only means buying Paralells Desktop or VMWare Fusion. I think Parallels is better, especially for gaming and such application.
If you really wanted something for gaming though, I'd suggest a desktop computer. They will always perform better because they don't need to power-save and they can cool down more efficiently. If you do go for a desktop, and you know what you are doing, build your own. With the money you saved by building your own, you can invest the extra money in a very high spec GFX card :)
Personally I would keep the Mac, and if it was powerful enough, you could run the games in a virtual machine, which only means buying Paralells Desktop or VMWare Fusion. I think Parallels is better, especially for gaming and such application.
If you really wanted something for gaming though, I'd suggest a desktop computer. They will always perform better because they don't need to power-save and they can cool down more efficiently. If you do go for a desktop, and you know what you are doing, build your own. With the money you saved by building your own, you can invest the extra money in a very high spec GFX card :)
lol well i didnt pay for my mac so that fixes that arguement haha. and yeah ill have to see. with school starting for me i wont have time to fiddle around with stuff. but thanks for the advice, i will reference this post when the time comes to be
to be honest, building your own computer isn't difficult. You don't need to do much fiddling. In fact, once you have got the parts, you could do it in a couple of hours :)
If you don't know where to start, "thenewboston" on YouTube has a series of videos on how to build a computer from scratch. He covers everything, from What parts you should buy, what parts suit different applications (e.g. Gaming etc), what you can and can't do, and how to actually put it all together.
edit: the playlist of these videos can be found here.
If you don't know where to start, "thenewboston" on YouTube has a series of videos on how to build a computer from scratch. He covers everything, from What parts you should buy, what parts suit different applications (e.g. Gaming etc), what you can and can't do, and how to actually put it all together.
edit: the playlist of these videos can be found here.
Building your own PC usually becomes one of the best things you've ever done. I have built all the computers in my household, alot of them out of scrapped parts from craigslist or computer donors, and they all hold up to the tech storm better then any pre-existing, default system out there. When you make it, you understand it better. And when you understand it better, you can push it more and get more out of it. I'd recommend building your own.
Toshiba. Definitely Toshiba. But not one with the shitty ass AMD processor. Gotta have that i7. Here is one I think you would really enjoy.www.google.com/products/catalog?q=Toshiba+with+Intel+i
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I absolutely hate AMD compared to Intel. Now when it comes to GPU, AMD is slick. And my reasoning behind suggesting a Toshiba is simple. During the years of computer repair my brother and I had to fix only one Toshiba, and that was due to a stupid owner. Dells, Acers, HPs, Asus, gateway, and all that other shit come in quite often with hardware problems.
Yes. The ATI Radeon from AMD is a beautiful gaming GPU. AMD has the fastest gaming GPU around actually. But as others have said earlier, it is best to custom build your own computer.
You should build the computer first, then search for cases that fit it's dimensions. Or...build your own case.
OOOHHHH a post that is right down my alley. As a computer tech, I fervently recommend ASUS. They are the best OEM computer out there. next comes ORIGIN, comprised of all the officials at Alienware that did not want to be bought out by Dell. They have quality products, but they are very pricey. Their best laptop tricked out with all the best options goes past $16,000. Their best desktop with all options goes past $30,000. If you do not want to buy ORIGIN, go with ASUS, or better yet, build your own system. I did, I have a system equivalent to an ORIGIN computer for about 1/3 of the price. <edit> I can build you a system for you if you would like, contact me at zyrohcustomcomputers@gmail.com with the games you are wanting to run, and I can give you several options. </edit>
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