Oh computers, why art thou so plentiful

Just to start, I apologize for all the discussion posts. My new phone the HTC thunderbolt is great, but I cannot add pictures to posts or comments through sharenator so at work I am limited to this. But getting back on topic...

I have been looking around at new computers and some are spiking my interest. I have a MAC at the moment with Windows dual booted on it. I only use the Windows for gaming but having to reboot whenever I want to get to my actual computer is annoying and tedious, so I am looking into buying a Windows computer purely for gaming. And no I do not want an alienware, I have the money but they are way over priced.

HP seems good to me but I've gotten other opinions. Which brand do you guys think is the best for high end performance?

A few brand names I've checked out:

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    bufus, save your money, and I will help you. Newegg.com and read a tutorial on how tocustom build. I Learned through trial, and now I build them on a regular basis.

    Fireroasted! Where have you been? I haven't spoken to you in a while. And custom build by using a website? or actually buying the separate parts yourself
    - bufus101 August 12, 2011, 8:49 am
    Buy yourself. I would be glad to help you. Computers are my passion in life and I actually have build not only my own, but multiple others.

    Hell, if you want, give me a budget and I can link you to parts for that price. If you REALLY wanted, have'em shipped here and I'd put it together for you, but I don't quite know you on that level, so...
    - FireRoastedFire August 12, 2011, 9:01 am
    Yeah I understand. I am very interested in computer buy I lack the will to read up too much on them. but I am always interested. putting s computer together isn't too hard right? You just need the right parts that work well together and a case that will fit everything lol
    - bufus101 August 12, 2011, 9:06 am
    Pretty much. Mind you, it can be a tad complex trying to make sure you route the cables the right way, plug in the correct connector with the correct molex... but all the components come with manuals incase you get lost. If need be, I have Skype. I could walk you through it.

    P.S.: Never buy Dell. We have one downstairs that I suped up, those things are impossible to work it. I managed, but... dear god...
    - FireRoastedFire August 12, 2011, 9:10 am
    Yeah dell seems like they were the company that started the whole build your own computer idea but recently haven't caught up to speed with everyone else. I don't like dell much anyways. One I'm familiar with is HP. I do like their computers, my best friend got one and its nice. Asus seems a little too strange for me but I don't know its capabilities. Idk about others
    - bufus101 August 12, 2011, 9:15 am
    Quick run-down of prebuilt companies:

    Dell: Why you would bother? No idea. Low price, low power, bad components, meh cases.

    Acer: Known as the 'Two year' computer. Approx. two years from purchase, something goes wrong. Moderately priced.

    HP: Good brand, bad hype. Their computers generally are well priced, but they do something that throws people off: Sup-up one part of the computer and standardizing the rest. Ex. Great Processor, but mediocre others. 12GB of RAM, but running an Intel core 2 duo from 5 years ago.

    Alienware: Dell with a cooler case.

    ASUS: Great motherboards, DVD burners, ect., great laptops, not so good at desktops. Can be expensive.

    Gateway: Honestly not bad. Pretty middle of the road. Never liked their logo.

    Other prebuilts: lolwut?
    - FireRoastedFire August 12, 2011, 9:29 am
    Haha Idk any other popular companies. and yeah well with HP you have to check to make sure all the components are up to date before buying. And really with acer? That's weird. and yeah some Asus laptops look like they have jet engines on them lol. Heard they are a good gaming laptop
    - bufus101 August 12, 2011, 9:38 am
    I completely agree with FireRoasted on everything he's said. Plus, building your own computer gives you a much better appreciation for your system. They really aren't hard to build at all, as long as you make sure everything is securely and properly connected you can do it in a day. I love building computers but sadly, I don't have the funds to keep building new ones :D
    - xlivewire7x August 12, 2011, 9:59 am
    Amen brother. My rig may be little, but it punches like Mike Tyson:

    Thermaltake Armor A30 Minitower case (nice, but I'm going bigger soon)
    Gigabyte Mobo
    AMD Phenom II x6 1090T Thuban slightly OC'd at 3.45GHz
    8GB G.skill DDR3 @ 1333
    and... XFX ATI Radeon HD 6950.

    I call it my mini-Combat Rig. No game even hinders her. No joke, with SCII open and maxing 1000+ instances on screen, she uses only 45% RAM capacity and 25-30% CPU usage.

    I loled.
    - FireRoastedFire August 12, 2011, 11:01 am
    This truly is the best way to build a computer. I built my own about a month ago with some pretty decent specs. Obviously not top of the line, but they work pretty freakin' nice.

    Intel i3 2120 ~3.3GHz with heatsync
    8GB DDR3 RAM ~1333MHz
    MSI H67MA-E35 mobo
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 280
    1600 x 900 HD monitor
    Pretty awesome looking LED's on the case too. It has about 3 fans and the computer itself is SO quiet it's not even funny.

    Thing cost me maybe $800 total.
    - Disco August 12, 2011, 11:55 am
    amd phenom? i heard phenom doesnt compare to intel processors
    - bufus101 August 12, 2011, 3:03 pm
    You heard from an Intel fan boy then. Plus, Phenom are powerful and much better priced than Intel.

    AMD also plans to blow Intel sky-high this year with their new Bulldozer 8-core processors.
    - FireRoastedFire August 13, 2011, 3:58 pm
    I looked at hundreds of reviews saying Intel is better lol. You sound like an amd fanboy :P. I believe you though. And 8 core processor? Little big for a laptop haha
    - bufus101 August 13, 2011, 4:08 pm
    I3 though? I mean I know processing power is all about GHz but the turbo boost and hyper threading do help
    - bufus101 August 13, 2011, 4:09 pm
    I was a little tight on money, as of right now, I don't need anything more advanced than that, but if the time comes I can easily just upgrade it again.
    - Disco August 13, 2011, 4:48 pm
    - bufus101 August 14, 2011, 3:08 am
    Bufus, to be honest, you'll find hundreds of reviews from either side. The one key thing that keeps BOTH running as companies is Fan boys.

    I'm just telling you from my view point after starting Intel all my life, then switching to AMD. Tell ya what, never going back to Intel unless AMD goes bankrupt.
    - FireRoastedFire August 15, 2011, 2:24 am
    I see I see. And I think you said that backwards lol
    - bufus101 August 15, 2011, 2:57 am
    You should consider trying Socket 2011 from Intel, its being released in December. It's the next generation enthusiast grade processor from Intel. It is going to build off of the 2nd gen I7s and include the Northbridge Chipset on the processor which will be able to handle quad channel RAM, Up to 8 RAM DIMMS, and with the Northbridge Chipset out of the way, sitting snugly in the processor, you get more bandwidth between the processor and the RAM, giving you a better performing computer.
    - Lambeau August 15, 2011, 5:51 pm
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    Go for a custom from a site like http://www.ibuypower.com/ I haven't used their website but it looks reasonable and most systems hold a lot of power.

    Oh cool thanks. there's another good one I know of called cyberpowerpc.com. and would you mind uprating this? Just so people see it because I could use some opinions
    - bufus101 August 12, 2011, 8:28 am
    Plus some brands let you build your own computer made out of their products
    - bufus101 August 12, 2011, 8:32 am
    Sure I don't mind :)
    - gemie89 August 12, 2011, 8:37 am
    ORIGIN is an example of that, but like I've said, they are a bit pricey.
    - Lambeau August 15, 2011, 5:47 pm
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    @bufus101 i think DELL would be better for you..
    i had a experience of HP, its not for hardcore user so that i suggest DELL for you..its better than HP.

    i consider upon my knowledge about Hardware:

    1- IBM
    2- DELL
    3- Acer
    4- HP

    now its up to you!

    • Omais
    • August 12, 2011, 10:03 am
    Dell isn't for hardcore either.

    my ranks for hardware are as follows:
    1- ASUS
    2- ORIGIN (tad pricey)
    3- IBM
    4- MAC

    Ranks for software

    1- Linux
    2- Windows
    3- BeOS
    4- MacOS
    - Lambeau August 15, 2011, 5:46 pm
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    I love the way you say "I don't want Alienware because they are overpriced" directly after saying you have a Mac xD

    Personally I would keep the Mac, and if it was powerful enough, you could run the games in a virtual machine, which only means buying Paralells Desktop or VMWare Fusion. I think Parallels is better, especially for gaming and such application.

    If you really wanted something for gaming though, I'd suggest a desktop computer. They will always perform better because they don't need to power-save and they can cool down more efficiently. If you do go for a desktop, and you know what you are doing, build your own. With the money you saved by building your own, you can invest the extra money in a very high spec GFX card :)

    lol well i didnt pay for my mac so that fixes that arguement haha. and yeah ill have to see. with school starting for me i wont have time to fiddle around with stuff. but thanks for the advice, i will reference this post when the time comes to be
    - bufus101 August 12, 2011, 3:08 pm
    to be honest, building your own computer isn't difficult. You don't need to do much fiddling. In fact, once you have got the parts, you could do it in a couple of hours :)

    If you don't know where to start, "thenewboston" on YouTube has a series of videos on how to build a computer from scratch. He covers everything, from What parts you should buy, what parts suit different applications (e.g. Gaming etc), what you can and can't do, and how to actually put it all together.

    edit: the playlist of these videos can be found here.
    - SkinnyBill August 13, 2011, 10:56 am
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    Building your own PC usually becomes one of the best things you've ever done. I have built all the computers in my household, alot of them out of scrapped parts from craigslist or computer donors, and they all hold up to the tech storm better then any pre-existing, default system out there. When you make it, you understand it better. And when you understand it better, you can push it more and get more out of it. I'd recommend building your own.

    • rain42
    • August 12, 2011, 6:24 pm
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    Toshiba. Definitely Toshiba. But not one with the shitty ass AMD processor. Gotta have that i7. Here is one I think you would really enjoy. http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=Toshiba+with+Intel+i7&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=214922561978937857&sa=X&ei=pARGTvuZIMXGgAfal7m3Bg&ved=0CHcQ8wIwBg

    Talk to fire roasted. He says amd is better than Intel. And thanks for the link
    - bufus101 August 13, 2011, 4:13 pm
    I absolutely hate AMD compared to Intel. Now when it comes to GPU, AMD is slick. And my reasoning behind suggesting a Toshiba is simple. During the years of computer repair my brother and I had to fix only one Toshiba, and that was due to a stupid owner. Dells, Acers, HPs, Asus, gateway, and all that other shit come in quite often with hardware problems.
    - CallMeGoogle August 13, 2011, 5:27 pm
    I can imagine Toshiba having quality. Our tv by them lasted 10 years but that's cause my dsd is a saint with electronics lol. and gpu is graphics processing unit right? Amd has good gaming processors?
    - bufus101 August 14, 2011, 3:07 am
    Yes. The ATI Radeon from AMD is a beautiful gaming GPU. AMD has the fastest gaming GPU around actually. But as others have said earlier, it is best to custom build your own computer.
    - CallMeGoogle August 14, 2011, 7:28 am
    yeah. Now I'm wishing I made this post earlier lol. I won't have time during college but ill try to look into it. How do you know if you're buying a case that will fit you're computers?
    - bufus101 August 15, 2011, 2:55 am
    You should build the computer first, then search for cases that fit it's dimensions. Or...build your own case.
    - CallMeGoogle August 15, 2011, 4:19 pm
    As a computer tech, I will tell people never to go with Toshiba Computers or components, Toshiba is horrible with driver publication and support, and their customer service is less than satisfactory.
    - Lambeau August 15, 2011, 5:42 pm
    Out of cardboard? :D
    - bufus101 August 16, 2011, 8:29 am
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    can anyone give me a complete rundown on parts lists, general costs and other stuff. assembly looks pretty straight forward, im just looking for general components necessary and good parts, ie. most bang for my buck.

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    OOOHHHH a post that is right down my alley. As a computer tech, I fervently recommend ASUS. They are the best OEM computer out there. next comes ORIGIN, comprised of all the officials at Alienware that did not want to be bought out by Dell. They have quality products, but they are very pricey. Their best laptop tricked out with all the best options goes past $16,000. Their best desktop with all options goes past $30,000. If you do not want to buy ORIGIN, go with ASUS, or better yet, build your own system. I did, I have a system equivalent to an ORIGIN computer for about 1/3 of the price. <edit> I can build you a system for you if you would like, contact me at zyrohcustomcomputers@gmail.com with the games you are wanting to run, and I can give you several options. </edit>

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    Does he want a Laptop or Desktop? If you need a desk top local fry's guy will walk you through building a new rig for gaming, buisness, etc.

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