the whole book was written in a time where those types of things were not considered homosexual but quite normal. in addition the were written in europe which has very different ideas about sexuality than the US and i daresay probably more mature ideas
Randal Graves: Oh, I'm crazy? Those fuckin' hobbit movies were boring as hell. All it was, was a bunch of people walking, three movies of people walking to a fucking volcano.
he was not gay he was a hobbit. we can't put our values on him. there are many customs in europe that are considered gay here in the states but that does not make you gay.
I understood what you were trying to convey, I just thought that the analogy you chose didn't fit as well as another might, for example: trying to judge Sam on our notions of homosexuality is like trying to judge Alice on the wisdom of chasing white rabbits down holes: they're both fiction.
I just found it comical because at first sight it read like you believed both hobbits and Europeans were fictional :P
WW1 I thought he fought in. Think one of his notebooks from the trenches survives with 'In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit' written on it.
I guess you can say the attitudes to male relationships he put in were those of contemporary Europe so it's a fair comparrison. I just like trying to get a rise out of Johne :D
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Hobbit Lover: Oh, Star Wars geek.
Randal Graves: Oh, I'm the geek? Look at you two whipping out your preciouses.
Elias: You'll have to excuse him, he's not "down" with the trilogy.
Randal Graves: Oh, what the fuck happened to this world? There's only one trilogy, you fucking morons.
Hobbit Lover: You know what, maybe we should start calling your friend Padme, because he loves Manakin Skywalker so much, right?
[in robot voice]
Hobbit Lover: Danger danger, my name is Anakin. My shitty acting is ruining saga.
Elias: [chucking] Yea-Yeah, you're crazy, Jar-Jar.
Randal Graves: Oh, I'm crazy? Those fuckin' hobbit movies were boring as hell. All it was, was a bunch of people walking, three movies of people walking to a fucking volcano.
I just found it comical because at first sight it read like you believed both hobbits and Europeans were fictional :P
I guess you can say the attitudes to male relationships he put in were those of contemporary Europe so it's a fair comparrison. I just like trying to get a rise out of Johne :D