How many sharenator members hunt?
I live in the northeast of the United States and it is hard to find someone that doesn't hunt and I'm wondering how many of you guys/gals hunt?
What I hunt:
this is a coyote not a wolf for all you people who don't know the difference.
I realize now that hunting may be a controversial topic and I urge other hunters to respect the views of others obviously others will have different opinions than you.
What I hunt:
this is a coyote not a wolf for all you people who don't know the difference.
I realize now that hunting may be a controversial topic and I urge other hunters to respect the views of others obviously others will have different opinions than you.
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Posted: 2010-11-13 14:40:02
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I understand where you're coming from, but the question is, 'do you hunt?' which suggests do you kill anything yourself, not if you consume something that has already been killed by another? And I don't because I couldn't physically kill an animal myself. I'm a big softie like that ;) I'll deliberately go out of my way not to kill anything if I can avoid it.
what you say is true. that being said everyone should have the thrill of hunting, cleaning, cooking and eating something from start to finish. the best food will always be the food you hunted/fished and cleaned yourself. the best plants are the one's you grew your self. the best tea is the tea you make yourself, and the best pot is the stuff you grew yourself. try it some time. its a friendly reminder that no matter how advanced we get, we don't forget our place in the food chain.
you don't always have to hunt with guns. many days i will just bring my camera and sit in a tree stand. something magical happens when nature forgets your there and goes back to acting normal. ever had a wild owl eat a field mouse within arm reach of you before? ever watched humming birds mate? ever watched a pod of dolphins hunt flying fish? or a gator catch a duck? get out in the woods or the water, it can be amazing.
Posted: 2010-11-15 08:08:04 Report
There is a difference between killing an animal for food and killing a man because you dont like him
so i take it youre a vegitarian that grows his/her own food and has a well?
buying grains/bread/etc = millions of animals killed by thrashers
baked goods = eggs
meat = animal meat
running tap water = death to fish, habitats, etc.
if you avoid all those things and live a kill free life, kudos to you.
if not, go take your elitist attitude elsewhere.
buying grains/bread/etc = millions of animals killed by thrashers
baked goods = eggs
meat = animal meat
running tap water = death to fish, habitats, etc.
if you avoid all those things and live a kill free life, kudos to you.
if not, go take your elitist attitude elsewhere.
if you're eating meat, youre killing. the same way a person that hires a murderer is a murderer themselves.
the elitist attitude shared by many vegitarians (including the previous poster) is hypocrisy, unless you truely live by your "non killing" lifestyle.
by the way. hitler was an elitist vegitarian.
the elitist attitude shared by many vegitarians (including the previous poster) is hypocrisy, unless you truely live by your "non killing" lifestyle.
by the way. hitler was an elitist vegitarian.
In the literal sense of killing; as is the context due to the subject matter of going out and then hunting and killing an animal be it with some sort of man made or natural aide or your own two hands, vegatarians do not kill.
They may cause death but they don't bodily see it or take part in it as you do with hunting which is also being reffered to as killing in this thread, so what you've posted is out of context and relatively meaningless in this particular thread right from the first sentence you put "so i take it youre a vegitarian that grows his/her own food and has a well?"
They may cause death but they don't bodily see it or take part in it as you do with hunting which is also being reffered to as killing in this thread, so what you've posted is out of context and relatively meaningless in this particular thread right from the first sentence you put "so i take it youre a vegitarian that grows his/her own food and has a well?"
nice fantasy.
you say "in the literal sense of killing"
let me get a definition of "kill":
"cause something living to die: to cause the death of a person, animal, or other organism"
now lets take what you said after that "They may cause death but they don't physichaly see it or take part in it"
how does one cause something without taking part in it?
(interesting... hitler never killed a single jew... he simply ordered it to be done., are you saying that he didnt kill anyone?) <-- not trying to accuse you of anything here, i'm just trying to use an abstract analogy to better explain my point.
you say "in the literal sense of killing"
let me get a definition of "kill":
"cause something living to die: to cause the death of a person, animal, or other organism"
now lets take what you said after that "They may cause death but they don't physichaly see it or take part in it"
how does one cause something without taking part in it?
(interesting... hitler never killed a single jew... he simply ordered it to be done., are you saying that he didnt kill anyone?) <-- not trying to accuse you of anything here, i'm just trying to use an abstract analogy to better explain my point.
k, i agree with you there. i was accusing the first poster of trying to play the moral higher ground... by trying to point out that he is no better.
in my opinion... i think the person responsible (anyone who eats / hitler) but does not "bodily kill anyone" is just as immoral as the person who does. just as the person who hires the hitman to kill, is just as immoral as the hitman.
in my opinion... i think the person responsible (anyone who eats / hitler) but does not "bodily kill anyone" is just as immoral as the person who does. just as the person who hires the hitman to kill, is just as immoral as the hitman.
shocking.
wasnt tryin to be a dick, i just feel most people are in denial about how you need to kill to stay alive, vegetarian/vegan or not. something i love about being the bearer of bad news to people playing the "holier than thou" card
but dont get me wrong, i can understand being a vegitarian, i dont buy viel because i feel it;s not just cruel, but it's a waste. grow that baby steer just alittle longer and you can feed 10x as many people with it.
i feel people become vegan/vegetarians and truely think they are on some higher plane of morality are just ignorant.
im sure many hunters would agree with me: hunting your own game, cleaning it, cooking it, and eating it gives you much more respect for the animals that gave their lives, so you can continue yours. i feel people lose touch with that when ALL of the meat they've ever eaten comes from a supermarket.
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wasnt tryin to be a dick, i just feel most people are in denial about how you need to kill to stay alive, vegetarian/vegan or not. something i love about being the bearer of bad news to people playing the "holier than thou" card
but dont get me wrong, i can understand being a vegitarian, i dont buy viel because i feel it;s not just cruel, but it's a waste. grow that baby steer just alittle longer and you can feed 10x as many people with it.
i feel people become vegan/vegetarians and truely think they are on some higher plane of morality are just ignorant.
im sure many hunters would agree with me: hunting your own game, cleaning it, cooking it, and eating it gives you much more respect for the animals that gave their lives, so you can continue yours. i feel people lose touch with that when ALL of the meat they've ever eaten comes from a supermarket.
Posted: 2010-11-15 11:01:20 Report
Vegetarians do not kill? How about the fact that every uncooked vegetable they put in their mouth is still alive. And news flash, research is still out on whether or not plants are capable of feeling. Do some research and you will see what I say is true.
Yeah dude i'm a tree surgeon i know about the lives of plants and what you've just said is worlwide common knowledge, and i never said they didn't kill plants however i did say they do not kill in the sense of hunting.
This debate has been done and these points i'm putting above me are basic repeats of the discussion i had with c8r15 earlier.
This debate has been done and these points i'm putting above me are basic repeats of the discussion i had with c8r15 earlier.
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where do you go deer hunting? how much is it for a tag around you? (alabama right?) i have family there... Gadsden, Alabama... also, Rome, Georgia.
its hundreds for a deer tag by me... so i dont really go.... my marlin 336cs 30-30 doesnt get much action...
shoulda been a cowboy.... shoulda learned to rope n ride...
its hundreds for a deer tag by me... so i dont really go.... my marlin 336cs 30-30 doesnt get much action...
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shoulda been a cowboy.... shoulda learned to rope n ride...
ive also got one of these by kruger steel (german)... passed down in my family for a long time... during the depression when my family first came to america, it was the only gun my great grandfather refused to sell.
its 2 20ga barrels and a 22 long rifle barrel down the middle. it has a switch between rifle and shotgun, when you switch it to rifle it brings up crosshairs.
i dont use this to hunt though. i never would... means too much to me.
i have a remington 1100 (interchangable barrels, a 28" barrel, and a 18" smooth bore slug barrel.) for skeet and geese.
my benelli nova with a 17.5" barrel, 1lb mercury recoil reducer, barrel shroud, mounted flash light, magazine extension, and recoil pad... thats for home defense... i customized it so either me or my girl can use it effectively.
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its 2 20ga barrels and a 22 long rifle barrel down the middle. it has a switch between rifle and shotgun, when you switch it to rifle it brings up crosshairs.
i dont use this to hunt though. i never would... means too much to me.
i have a remington 1100 (interchangable barrels, a 28" barrel, and a 18" smooth bore slug barrel.) for skeet and geese.
my benelli nova with a 17.5" barrel, 1lb mercury recoil reducer, barrel shroud, mounted flash light, magazine extension, and recoil pad... thats for home defense... i customized it so either me or my girl can use it effectively.
D: omg i need to move the F out of this G-d forsaken place.
what months is it legal for me to take a trip down there, bunk with my family, and go out and hunt some deer?
i'm assuming you guys need hunting licenses, right? would they give an out of stater a hunting license? do i need to take a safety class like i do over here? if so... how much is a hunting license?
what months is it legal for me to take a trip down there, bunk with my family, and go out and hunt some deer?
i'm assuming you guys need hunting licenses, right? would they give an out of stater a hunting license? do i need to take a safety class like i do over here? if so... how much is a hunting license?
i don't know how much the out of state fee is and yes you will need to take a safety class. though i have heard you can take it online now. depending on where in Alabama and what you are hunting with (bow, black powder, rifle, dogs, ect) you have different days for different toys.
i like roughing it... nothing makes you feel more alive than surviving on a tough terrain when it's 35 below 0.
but i always felt like i was cheating when i was eating loaves of bread and canned food... and sausage/hot dogs in a bag, hanging from a tree packed with snow...
id love to add hunting my own food to the experience...
and you may ask "why not fish?"
simple... i hate fish. tastes like ass.
my dream would be grizzly bear or grizzly bear hunting in alaska with a 45/70. (hell, i'd even settle for montana)
but i always felt like i was cheating when i was eating loaves of bread and canned food... and sausage/hot dogs in a bag, hanging from a tree packed with snow...
id love to add hunting my own food to the experience...
and you may ask "why not fish?"
simple... i hate fish. tastes like ass.
my dream would be grizzly bear or grizzly bear hunting in alaska with a 45/70. (hell, i'd even settle for montana)
Posted: 2010-11-15 10:24:59 Report
thanks, its really a side by side shotgun... that under barrel is a .22 long rifle barrel...
they call it a german drilling shotgun.
the one i have is from the mid 1800s, my grandfather brough it from italy when he moved to the united states.
the one i posted pictures of belongs to someone else and is much newer... i should take some glamour shots of my baby... the detailing work is incredible.
they call it a german drilling shotgun.
the one i have is from the mid 1800s, my grandfather brough it from italy when he moved to the united states.
the one i posted pictures of belongs to someone else and is much newer... i should take some glamour shots of my baby... the detailing work is incredible.
Nah, I've never been and to be honest I don't think I'd enjoy personally killing animals. I don't think it's a sport for everyone
Hunting for sport is different then hunting most sport hunting like the one you see on tv only hunt for the 'trophy' that is the the mount of status they gain. Where I hunt I hunt for the meat of the animal which saves a lot of money for my family and the 'trophy' in my case a buck is only the bonus.
Thats cool man, and I see where you're coming from with the difference between sports hunting and your kind of hunting but I'm a city boy, so I've never properly been exposed to that cultural aspect of the country... so hunting is all a very foreign idea to me
I live in England,I have been fishing and shooting rabbits a couple of times but I didn't really know what I was doing so generally failed getting anything, I let the supermarkets do my hunting for me lol
I think it was a .22 Savage Mark 1-G. It is quite old and I sort of share it with my friend. I don't know loads about it or hunting in general however.
Usually we would lie in a field and they are everywhere so good aim is all we need. But some times, with some other people, we try to cover all of the burrow holes but one and send the ferrets down there, they usually get them pretty easy (unless we miss a couple of holes)
Actually what really is crule is when over population occurs and the animals are hit by cars and trucks which not only kill them out of season when mother may be caring for young ones, or when an animal is hit it could take hours for it to die a painful death. Not only do these accidents cause damage to the animal but also vehicles which in some cases for example hitting a moose can total or severely damage the car. I'm not against your position on hunting I just think you should get all the facts.
I was well aware of the fact that occasionally some animals get hit by cars and die although i dont see how it has any effect on my view point. People also get hit by cars and occasionally die brutal deaths. All I'm saying is that i refuse to condone setting out to purposefully hurt an animal in a way which isn't humane. Unless the bullet passes through the brain, and even then not always, does the animals die instantaneously.
I agree with you that no animal should suffer and no animal does if the hunter is smart about his shot placement and unfortunately some aren't where I hunt people aren't throwing lead through the woods hoping they hit something we place out shot precisely and if the animal is still alive try to put it out of any misery as soon as possible (in which there should be none. I appreciate your opinion :)
i hunt elk, deer, turkey, quail, grouse, pheasent, rabbit, squirrel, i've killed a mountain lion, yotes, and i'm probably going on a safari with my future fiance's dad next year so hopefully if i go i come back alive.
im slightly afraid of the safari as i might be killed by an animal or by her dad.
It depends on the situation really... If your hunting nobody important it won't be much fun, just practice. Hunting someone important may mean they might be protected or have a routine that helps to protect them, finding ways around that are part of the fun.
Well my account name pretty much sums it up, I love to hunt! Whitetail mostly, and here in Maine we've got lots of them. If i see any coyotes ill shoot em, they are such a pain around here. Im glad to see another hunter on sharenator! The gun i use is an 8mm German Mauser, its pretty beastly.
Im about 20 minutes south of Augusta, dude Orono is a HUGE party school!! i took a tour this year, its sweet
Savage makes pretty good guns too.
Savage makes pretty good guns too.
It's a necessary process to control deer and other game herds to prevent spread of disease and property damage. Also, profit from license sales (at least in my state) goes towards wildlife conservation. I do appreciate your opinion but all hunters a taught to pick and choose their targets to get the cleanest most humane kill.
you sir are correct, and therefore full of win. however i believe that you have left out the most dangerous of all animals that need controlling, the pedo bears!
i hunt. deer. and pedo bear. my pedo bear count is up to 38.
oh, i don't hunt for sport either, pedo bear makes one grand stew.
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