Do Police go too far?

I was kind of horrified when I watched the video below. Did the girl's behavior warrant the beating she received? Keep in mind she is only 15. I appreciate the job that officers of the law do. I realize it is a dangerous job (in some cases) and that it is a scary job. But it makes me wonder how can you be in fear of your life from an unarmed, contained, 15-year-old girl?



Or how about the case of Oscar Grant? A BART police officer shoots and kills Oscar while he is face down on the ground with another officer holding down Oscar's head. Oakland was on edge when this happened...so much on edge that during the protests our offices closed.



Or how do you feel about a pregnant woman being tased? If you read the article you will see that she was resisting arrest. Yes, she should have done as the officers asked and get out of the car but did a 7 month pregnant woman pose a large enough threat to be tased? Do you think that there could have been another way to get her out of the car?

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/223578_taser10.html

So tell me your thoughts? Do you think police go too far? Do you think they are well within their rights to use force?

Me I think it is lack of respect on both sides of the law. I think some (not all) officers lack respect for the public in general. I think some officers are guilty of racial profiling. On the other side of that I think that the general public lacks respect for officers and blatantly disobey orders if they don't understand why they are being detained. Whether we like it or not, the law is behind an officer if they tell you to do something and you disobey.

What do some of you think could be a solution to lack of respect on both sides?

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    It's sick how much the criminal mind and the mind of some of our law enforcement have in common. The decision to make is what do they want to be, a crook or a cop? The end result is criminals with badges pinned on them. A crooked cop can be twice as scary to run into than a common street thug, just for the simple fact the law is on their side. Those men should have their asses thrown in jail. Their lives were not threatened in anyway. Two grown ass men beat the shit out of a little girl,tazing a pregnant women, and murdering an unarmed man in a subway would never be questioned for right or wrong if it wasn't for that little tin star pinned to a piece of shit.

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    The second video disgusted me. But the first one wasn't so bad. The amount of force they used may have been excessive but she did appear to resist some and we don't know what kind of resistance she had gotten away with before that but yes the second video was horrible. But always keep in mind hindsight is always 20/20

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    I do agree that sometimes it comes down to criminals with badges. I think there are two types of police officers, those that abuse the power they are given and those that really want to make a difference in the world. I've known some wonderful officers and I've known some that weren't.

    There is a very fine line here we all (officers, the law, and the public) walk. Do you think that if the law stood behind officers a bit less that more people would resist? Do you think that if the law continues to stand behind officers in these situations there will eventually be more cop killings?

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    • Math
    • April 24, 2010, 2:55 am
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    You know my co-worker said the exact same thing about the teenage girl. I don't really understand that statement but I do. I mean, yes she could have gotten away with a lot more before and then the officer finally had enough but she doesn't appear to be resisting to me. It seems she was asked to take her shoes off and in true teenage form she kicked her shoes out the door and then the one officer went for her.

    In the second video, I couldn't find the original unedited version. In the original, you see the shooting officer first reach around his body with his right hand toward his taser while he still had his knee in Oscar Grant's back. It was rumored that the cop thought he was reaching for his taser...which is bullshit if the rumor is true. You also see Oscar Grant in the seated position before he is put face first on the ground...but Oscar gets up on his knees (it is unclear in the video if he was asked to get up) which could have made the cops cautious. Keep in mind that these are only transit officers and not police officers. BART has their own police. I am not sure if the BART police go through the same training as police officers.

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