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But true capitalism is bad. That is where there is no govt regulation at all. No bueno.
They dont deserve these things? Child slaves in India work their ass off just so you can buy a cheap rug. Just for some firewood. You Dont deserve to be saying that. But at the end of the day, you will just make some irrational excuse up, and push it out of your mind because you feel bad.
And now for you "BEASTY": Please go get your crappy American education and get off forums that are far beyond your brain capacity.
I'm addition, India has way more problems than a rich/poor gap. Ex. Child slaves.
Except for those who don't. Those people (not just Americans) who have to work three jobs to feed their families, and can't even with that level of dedication. Those who get screwed over by the greedy suits at the top. Those who, despite a lifetime of dedication to a local store get overrun by a large supermarket, and now have next to no way of earning revenue.
As the great Immortal Technique puts it [warning, explicit], "But you see, here in America the attitude that is fed to us is that outside of America there live lesser people. "Fuck them, let them fend for themselves." No, Fuck you, they are you. No matter how much you want to dye your hair blonde and put fake eyes in, or follow an anorexic standard of beauty, or no matter how many diamonds you buy from people who exploit your own brutally to get them, no matter what kind of car you drive or what kind of fancy clothes you put on, you will never be them. They're always gonna look at you as nothing but a little monkey. I'd rather be proud of what I am, rather than desperately trying to be something I'm really not, just to fit in. And whether we want to accept it or not, that's what this culture or lack of culture is feeding us."
Secondly, socialism! Let the debate ensue.
I'll post a reasoned argument soon, but for now it's bed time.
If I could uprate this for you again I would!
I will list my reasons:
1.) I support democracy, and when I say that I mean the purest form of a democratic republic possible. The economy is one of the most important aspects of American life, and to have our economic officials go completely unelected, then have them control almost all of our money flow and merchandising traffic, is tyranny in its purest form. Unelected, untouchable officials guiding essential aspects of a nation. This I do not support.
2.) Neither capitalism nor socialism is a perfect ideal, and both fail for the same reason. Both make an assumption of the human spirit: that they will work for the country. Socialism hopes that everyone will work for a country in which equality reigns, whereas capitalism hopes that everyone will work for the wealth of the top 1% of the nation. I would much rather work for equality.
3.) The rich/poor gap in a socialist society is much smaller than in a capitalist one. 95-99% of America's wealth is controlled by 1-5% of the population. I personally find that disgusting.
4.) "Competition fuels greatness...".... really? How about intellect fuels greatness? Human ingenuity? National unity? I think Equality fuels morale.... and Good morale fuels work... and work fuels greatness.
And I still think competition fuels greatness. Just look at sports. Everyone is competing to be the best and that competition motivates them to be the best they can be so that they win.
58.5% of Americans will spend at least one year below the poverty line between the ages of 25 and 75.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States
/> (I realize it's wikipedia, but their cited sources are legitimate in this case).
More than one in 7 househoulds, or 14.6% of them, suffered from "food insecurity" in 2008. This means they were in danger of going hungry, and most did.
http://www.bread.org/press-room/releases/more-americans-go-hungry.html
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Your view of America is quite skewed because you, much like me, must live in a fairly wealthy, safe region. Before you make generalized assumptions that the rest of America is in your situation, look at the facts...
3.5 million people go homeless according to an annual survey.
http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/526/homeless-facts.html
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It's not just about America either. If you want to be chilled to the bone, read this:
http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats
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Finally, even in sports that analogy falls through. Because you must also apply it to a global scale. If a team (country) does not cooperate: all share in the rewards, all work together to the same goal, all get treated equally; then they will fail miserably. Cooperation fuels greatness.
Also of those unde the poverty line, how many are there and it's their own fualt? (dropping out, drug use, jail time, unwanted pregnency, ecetora.
But in addition a team does have cuts and doesn't let the weak people in.(now before you bite my head off I am not including disabled people in this.)
As to how long they were hungry, it essentially deals with cases where the amount of hunger was long/severe enough to affect a person's health. To my understanding anyway: I'll find a comparable chart soon. Too lazy at the moment... as that is quite the elusive statistic.
Situations are far too nuanced to make a generalized statistic involving who is at fault for individuals' poverty. And I don't think it is right for us (in most cases) to assume we understand who is to blame...
Those who drop out of school? What if it's to take care of a dying mother?
Those using drugs? What was the cause? Abuse, death, emotional strain?
Those in jail? Wrongful accusation?
Unwanted pregnancies? Condom failure? Sacrificing their own livelihood for their new child's?
I think every situation has a spin.
That's true, but neither model (Socialism or capitalism) ejects people from the country. And besides, a capitalist state does not differentiate between incompetence and disability: if a person is not turning a profit, they are not worth supporting.
Also I never meant to eject people. By if one can't support themselve becuase they are to lazy or too crappy as an induvidial why should we hurt the people who do work hard? Now I do have one question, did you mean your statement, "if a person is not turning profit, they are not worth supporting.". If you did we may be geting somewhere. :)
How does socialism hurt those who work hard? All it does is create equality. And just as you are not supporting true capitalism, I am not supporting true socialism, meaning there is some kind of luxury to be gained. And no, that statement was a rhetorical device criticizing the base capitalist ideal. I think every person is worth supporting, as every man is created equal.
Sorry....that's for another post.
There is a difference between a zygote and a human.
When russia tried communism which is alot like socialismin the financial department, it completely failed. thats because whe government is created you have to think how the common man could abuse it. With socialism all you have to do is sit on your fat ass and you get paid just the same.
I'm not saying you aren't open minded, you seem to be, I just wish you would revise your above statement : ).
a lecturer begins a seminar holding up a 20 dollar bill, and asking:
- Who wants this 20 dollar bill?
Several hands went up, but the lecturer said:
- Before handing it over, there’s something I must do.
He furiously crushed it, and asked again:
- Who still wants this bill?
The hands continued raised.
- And what if I do this?
He threw it against the wall, letting it fall to the floor, kicked it, stamped in it and again held up the bill – all dirty and crumpled. He repeated the question, and the hands continued to be held high.
- You mustn’t ever forget this scene – said the lecturer. – No matter what I do with this money, it’ll still be a 20 dollar bill. Many times in our lives, we are crushed, stamped on, kicked, maltreated, offended; however, in spite of this, we are still worth the same.
Are you saying because equality is hard we shouldn't try for it? Freedom is hard too.
And which figures do you question? I will provide sources for any. And global climate change is EXTREMELY serious. But that's for another discussion.
What points am I not stating equally? I'm very confused.
What great inventions have come out of a socialistic or communistic country?