Can cops search you're vehicle without your consent? time sensitive..

So i'll just tell you my story, I want to know if there is anything i can do.

So i was cut off by some guy, he jumped out of his car yelling and starting to come towards my car, so I backed up then drove away. he followed me, but then i eventually lost him and parked cause my car was steaming (radiator problem). Couple seconds later a cop pulls me over (already parked keys out of the ignition) two more squad cars pull up and I hear one of them yelling put your hands out the window so we all did (me,and two passengers). They told us nothing, cuffed all three of us and then began to search my car without my consent. Turned out that somebody called 911 and reported two cars road raging and one of them pulling out a gun. Which was supposedly me the driver of my car. Well turns out after searching and trashing my car they find no gun, but a pipe (not mine, but one of my passengers) with paraphernalia in it under the front passenger seat. I ended up getting charged with possession (Something they weren't even looking for) and now have a court date this coming Thursday.

I will obviously talk to a lawyer, but I just want to get all my facts straight before then if possible.

-So is there any legal thing I can do about theses officers searching my car with out permission?
-Can they search you're car just under suspicion?

I live in Battle Ground, Washington so you know what state laws i abide by.

In advance thank you everybody that i am sure will help me with this task.

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    As a former police officer I can explain the course of events. Since you and your vehicle were reported as doing something that could have been felonious, they had probable cause to pull you over and put you in handcuffs. As soon as you're cuffed, you are officially under arrest. At that time, the officers are protected by law to search your vehicle without your consent.

    I will tell you however, your "crime" is (I believe) a class 3 misdemeanor, which is punishable AT MOST by 1-3 years in jail. BUT, because it's such a minor offense and what (I'm assuming) is your first offense, you'll probably get something in the neighborhood of 20 hours of community service with no probation.

    Good luck!

    How are you this awesome?
    - Ertrov October 9, 2011, 8:44 pm
    Lot's of practice.
    - ClassicDarlingXO October 10, 2011, 1:45 pm
    I'm sorry, but this is bullshit, and you have no idea how the system actually works. The cop who arrested me also said something similar, but that's just not how it works.

    I had a pocket knife in my pocket at highschool, which I carry as well as every other student carried since most of us lived in bad neighborhoods and when you have to walk 3 miles to the bus stop through said neighborhoods you want something to defend yourself with in case anything goes down.

    Not only was I made a felon at 17, I had 18months probation which is NOT the minimum for that crime and it was my first offense(which was extended to 20months since I moved states and the paperwork lagged by that much), 20 juvenile work project hours, weekly probation officer visits(sometimes to my house, and was juggled between 6 different probation officers) which included drug tests every time, 40 hours community service, a few mandatory attendances of drug classes, and like a $200 fine, which I got out of for being poor. Plus a rule list with like 50 other misc. rules such as curfew, not being able to be around knives/guns(even if you work in the landscaping business and use knives at work, which I did).

    This added a lot of places I had to be, which is not always the easiest to do when you are 17/18 years old and live by yourself w/ no car, but the system is designed that way so it is harder to get out of it.

    All of this for having a pocket knife in my pocket and some girl reported me(she also had a knife on her, the dumbshit) and I got searched and they found it. 3.5GPA honor roll student doesn't matter, to police you are always viewed as a serial killer. Oh well, I didn't have to pay for shit and all those drug tests and lawyer/misc costs were covered by the bankrupt State of California, who is currently wondering why they have no $.
    - casper667 April 25, 2012, 4:55 am
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    head for mexico, and hange your name to pancho sanchez rodriguez. the pigs will never find you

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    im not a lawyer or anything but i think that they can search cars if you're under suspicion, but i'm pretty sure they can't arrest you without telling you anything. you have to be read your rights and explained to about why you're being arrested. so if they did really just cuff you and look through your car without saying a word then you might have a case

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    I think there's something about not being able to charge you for anything they find that they weren't looking for (the pipe). Not sure, but it'd be worth looking into if you consider pressing charges.

    • Ertrov
    • October 9, 2011, 10:16 am
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    This is similar to the rumor that if you ask an under cover cop if they are a cop, they have to tell you. This is totally false, they don't have to tell you shit.

    • Albane
    • October 12, 2011, 12:08 pm
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    A similar incident happened to me in Battle Ground. It might be the same person.
    What car was he driving? What did he look like? Did you do anything to provoke him? What time of day was it?

    It sounds suspicious that someone would report you as having a gun, it sounds like it may have been the road raging guy who called the police to fuck you over.

    • 9099
    • January 29, 2012, 7:48 pm
    Fuck you nerd
    - tyduran13 January 31, 2012, 1:54 pm
    Fuck you you motherfucking sack of shit, I will find out where you live.
    - 9099 February 19, 2012, 4:39 am
    HAHA you live in a fucking shitty apartment with your parents. Stupid poor faggot, I hope the cops roughed you up, you probably got free lunches in high school, because your parents were too stupid to get real jobs. Have fun working at mcdonalds the rest of your life you piece of trash.
    - 9099 February 19, 2012, 4:44 am
    Lmfao^ this at this cool mother fucker getting trolled like a bitch I said 3 words and your writing a novel telling everybody how you had to live your life, cause you had a broke ass family who couldnt make ends meet lmfao dont hate cause of your insecurities bro haha
    - tyduran13 April 10, 2012, 12:32 am
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    If my understanding of the law is correct (Canadian anyway) They have to give you a reason to search you, especially when they lack evidence. How much weed did you have on you? In Canada if it's anything less than 5 grams, they'll just take it from you (maybe a fine) and leave it at that. The paraphernalia is legal here as well, you're not not allowed to use them for weed. I'm not even sure they can charge you with possession if they don't find any pot.

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    It is my understanding (took law this year whattup!) that the cops can search cars, homes, things...etc (in your case the car) in times of emergency. In this case it seems like the cops thought you had a gun and threatened a person so they saw it as an emergency situation and had to get the story straight/get the gun to safety. I'm not sure if this is correct but I did get a 92!

    • Bike
    • April 25, 2012, 1:27 pm
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    wow... America.

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